Why not use “Abt” or “a” for short data entry?




C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Howard Cady [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: July 10, 2014 05:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting this 
Friday, July 11 (Dates, Searching and Tagging)



Sherry,  Perhaps I was not clear enough about my concern for “Est” as a prefix 
for dates.  Legacy version 7 was clear that “Est” is an allowed prefix in 
addition to “Abt”, “Cir”, and “Cal” for indicating uncertainty.  However, 
Legacy 8 is unclear. “Est” is no longer a listed option under 
Options>Customize>Dates, nor is it mentioned as a prefix under Help>Index>Dates 
Approximated>Prefixes, nor is it mentioned under Help>Index>Dates Entering an 
allowed prefix.  It is true that it still works as a distinct prefix from “Abt” 
etc., but I, for one, want it retained as one of the shades of uncertainty.

Howard



From: Sherry/Support <mailto:[email protected]>

Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:50 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting this 
Friday, July 11 (Dates, Searching and Tagging)



Why do you both think that Est isn't accepted? I'm using it just fine and it 
shows in the Help file as acceptable.



I don't get any Potential Problem warning, nor an error with Options  > 
Customize 5.5 selected.



In the Dates topic under "Approximating Dates" it says

When entering an estimated date, use an appropriate prefix, such as:

Estimated or Est

About or Abt

Before or Bef

After or Aft



​It could be that Geoff just accidentally left it out of the syllabus.
​



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jay 1FamilyTree <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Howard,



I have had no problems with using Cir, or Abt. instead of est.



I have now replaced EVERY date that is not complete with some sort of 
descriptor like abt, aft, bef, bet, cir, cal.

and I am extremely pleased with the results as it make all the sorting so much 
better (I have a rather large database with many similar names. )



I try stick to some patterns, like using Cir for a birth of a spouse based only 
upon the birth of their spouse.



I use aft YYYY in  a marriage date as 18 yrs after the youngest spouse.

I use bef YYYY  in a marriage date when I know the birth year of a child

I use aft YYYY in a birth date when I know the marriage year of the parents

I use bef YYYY in a death date when I see their spouse is widowed on a census



and I use abt YYYY when using a census date as a birth date.





Since may other software programs do not recognize EST. I look forward to fewer 
errors in exchanging ged files.



Jay





On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Howard Cady <[email protected]> wrote:



Goeff,  I note in your Webinar notes that “Est = Estimated” has been dropped 
from allowed dates.  One of the main reasons for my switching to Legacy was 
this descriptor.  I use it especially when I know the birth dates of one or 
more children and only the names of parents, grand parents, gg-parents etc.  
This allows for keeping people in the correct order and century (or better).  I 
hope it is not planned to drop this feature.

Howard Cady









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