Thank you Jenny, Brian and Cathy for your replies.

First I must admit to a severe case of brain cramp.

My first attempt at entering sources was in Family Treemaker many years ago 
(program was DOS and on a 3 1/2" disc!). When I transferred the file over to 
Legacy Family Tree several years ago the sources that I had entered all ended 
up as Basic Sources in LFT as you know. I started using Source Writer a couple 
of years ago for census events, at first copying, using Clipboard, sources from 
one individual to other family members and editing as necessary, that worked 
fine.

I took a break from genealogy and when I came back I created a new Source 
Writer for a Census choosing "Online Database" instead of "Online Images" as my 
source. Dah! This choice presents a different Citation/Detail window. Why the 
difference is not clear to me as they are both ask for similar information but 
in a different order.

I also started to use "Sharing" instead of copying from from one individual to 
another.

I will have to re-enter Census years 1891 to 1841 (I worked backwards).

On reflection the advantage of copying and pasting (using Clipboard) Sources 
from one individual to another is that you can edit subsequent individuals by 
entering their names and correcting the Folio and Page changes rather than only 
having the first individuals name (without RIN) and two Folio #s and Page #s. I 
had also taken advantage when editing of adding the maiden name of married 
women to their census ID. Maybe RIN should be added also?

A Sharing aspect would come from the common "Place" in the Event that shows up 
in the "Master Location" listing where you can see a list of the individuals at 
the same "Place/Location".

I now see were the difference comes from the "Place (Location)" in the "Event" 
and "Location Details" as the second prompts for Parish, City etc. Why so is 
not obvious to me but I guess Elizabeth Shown Mills knows best.

As pointed out some sources can be accessed from several organizations. For the 
England and Wales Census I have used the National Archives as the source and if 
you visit their site they make reference to Findmypast and Ancestry. There 
could also be a reference to Family Search. As an aside the FreeBMD website URL 
recently changed, nothing lasts forever. I think I will list secondary websites 
in Repository Notes.

On the task of re-entering the Census Data from 1841 to 1891 I will proceed 
using the Clipboard instead of Sharing so that I can edit as necessary. I will 
also change my selection to "Online Images".

Thanks again for your responses.

Barry Godbeer
Brampton
Ontario
Canada


On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:04 AM, Cathy Pinner <[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Barry,

Re census over two pages - convention some places seems to be to only
use the reference for the head of household, but like Paula I add both.

Re the Source Detail order for the English censuses. In her examples
Elizabeth Shown Mills doesn't follow her principles to keep reference
together or The National Archives of the UK citation advice though she
does take into account the US National Archives citation methods.
I put the folio and page numbers in the piece number field to overcome
what I see as an error
So I'll enter 326 folio 23, page 2 and folio 24, page 3 all in the Piece
field.

I'm not sure what template you are using. I use the Basic Format as I've
seen the Census pages in so many different places/ways from images on CD
and microfilm and fiche to online images at various sites.
For some other National Archives of UK sources, I use a Census source as
it has space for the name of the series and the series number and use
the microfilm template. Instead of film series/no I put images courtesy
of the National Archives and findmypast.co.uk and ancestry.com ... as so
many now are found on more than one website - but they're not as
prolific as the census images online and for these lesser used sources I
and others need to know which websites hold the images.

I don't want a different master source for everywhere I look at the same
set of images.
I wouldn't have a different master source if I was accessing a book at a
number of different libraries. When seeing the actual image of the
original I think Shown Mills gives more prominence to the secondary
repository than the actual source.

Re Shared Events - I don't use them. I still use the Event Clipboard to
copy an event to other relevant people.

Cathy
> Barry Godbeer <mailto:[email protected]>
> Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:11 AM
> Version 8.0.0.439 Deluxe Edition OS Vista Home Edition
> I have been creating Events using Source Writer based on England and
> Wales Census records from 1841 to 1911 and have the following issues
> with the sharing of Sources.
> Many families are spread over two pages and therefore have two
> different references eg RG9 PN 326 Folio 23 Page 2 and RG9 PN 326
> Folio 24 Page 3 to enter into the "Credit" box of the Source Detail.Is
> this the right thing to do or not share the Source Detail and treat
> each member of the household separately with their own specific
> reference.?
> I note also that having entered information into the "Place" on the
> "Event" template and sharing that "Event" with several individuals
> those individuals are not listed at the same "Place" ("Location") in
> the Master Location listing. Is this an oversight or intended?
> When entering an existing "Place" on the "Event" template auto fill
> will present one or more options as the Place is typed in. However
> this is not the case when entering the "Location Details" in the
> Source Detail. Are these two boxes to receive the same information or
> is something else expected?
> I note also that the Source Detail for Census 1841 through 1901 has a
> different layout to that of the 1911 Census. It's asking for similar
> information so why the difference?
> It might be helpful also if the RIN was attached to the individual's
> name that is being shared with others.
> Some of the above might be considered Suggested Changes but I will
> wait and see what response I get to this email.
> Thanks,
> Barry Godbeer
> Brampton
> Ontario
> Canada
>
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