Karen, thanks for chiming in here! You are definitely the voice of experience in my opinion. I think the main impetus for asking Legacy to give more flexibility in sourcing output is that sourcing is truly at the heart of any sound genealogy research. Without a source (as we see all too often on the web), the data is not verifiable. It's like walking up to the drivers license bureau and asking for a license without needing to prove who you are. Wouldn't that be scary!

Legacy does offer sourcing options (which is great!), but I think that real consideration should be given to the order and flexibility of output. That way, as individual formatting trends change for sourcing, the program can easily adapt. Mills is currently working on a new version of "Evidence!" so I expect that we will see more changes soon.

I have already played around with my sources after reading Mills' QuickSheet. Most of the changes could easily be made using a search and replace. However, the need to print one element (web site address) from the master source beside another element (accressed date) from the citation detail cannot be accomplished. One also cannot change the output order between master source components and details. These would be great changes in my opinion, and would allow the user to easily adapt sources so they will look good in a particular report or book.

Thanks to several of you for posting on this subject. Sourcing is *very* important to me and I would think it would be as well to most of Legacy's target market. Therefore, I do not consider this as asking for "bells and whistles," but as asking to address a core need.

Thanks,
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nestorgenealogy/

From: "Karen Sipe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Robin;
You have had some very nice responses.  As a new researcher it may be hard
for you to know now what type of end product you will want.  After many
years I am now struggling with the format I want for a book.  I agree that
Mills is the best citation reference for genealogy, but at times
modification of her examples have served me better. The census is one such
case. She starts her citation with the name of the head of house. Given my
one name study and the number of people and census that I have used this
would be impossible. I cite census to the year county state and have about 16 pages of census sources. I can't imagine how many pages it would be if I
used all the head of houses, too many for publishing a book.  This is
becoming an issue since our computers can handle the detail type sources but books could have way more sources than information. For web pages I include the web address under publication information, it may not be quit right but
it does work well.

Another consideration is the readability of your final report.  A short
article with footnotes reads fine but a book with hundreds of pages would
become very choppy. I just tried a one generation report for my immigrant
ancestor's family and came up with a 9 page report 4 of which were sources.
The first person had 25 sources-equal to about 1 page of sources. If these
were published as footnotes the number of pages the family would stretch
across would make reading more difficult.  Endnotes would help keep the
reading pages closer together. And IMO most readers of family reports want
the information not the sources.

I think you need to use Mills as a guide, following it as much as possible
but take into consideration your personal preference for your final report.
Over time you may find it necessary to go back and change some of the
information you have put into one of today's current genealogical programs.
UGG! None of us want this but I have already been through the process
because of technical changes - typewriter to computer, one computer program to another and I understand GEDCOM does not pick up all the wonderful fields
some programs offer researcher which would mean you need to be careful how
you input your data if you want it to be GECOM compatible.

One thing I would like to see are customizable sources, where I can build
my own "type" and create the text fields and surrounding source text.

Have you tried adding you "type" to the choice of Types in the scroll down?
This field can be customized.  You also have text field in source detail
that many put the census or type in an obituary.

Like others I have asked for the ability to print a source citation report
that would be a bibliography, without names and database information.

Karen V. Sipe

From Gail:
In citing my sources, I would like to be able to include the web site
address as part of the "master source" in Legacy, and to include the
accessed date as part of the "citation detail."  With Legacy, I cannot do
this and have it formatted as Mills' example above (combined within the
parentheses).
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