On 07/26/2010 04:29 PM, Anthony wrote:

Only if you license the produced work under BY-SA.  Which means *all
elements* of the produced work are under BY-SA.  Which means *the data*
encapsulated in the produced work is under BY-SA.

No, it means the produced work is BY-SA.

Which means anybody
who extracts the data back out of the produced work would get the data
under BY-SA.

Yes I am curious about this. We should ask ODC about it (it's not in the FAQ).

But looking at the text of the license, I don't think you can do that.
ODbL Section 4.6 says "If You Publicly Use a Derivative Database or a
Produced Work from a Derivative Database, You must also offer to
recipients of the Derivative Database or Produced Work a copy in a
machine readable form..."  But that is incompatible with BY-SA, which
says that "You may not offer or impose any terms on the Work that alter
or restrict the terms of this License or the recipients' exercise of the
rights granted hereunder."  A produced work under BY-SA can be publicly
used without offering recipients the source database.  But a produced
work from an ODbL database cannot be publicly used without offering
recipients the source database.

If you receive a produced work under BY-SA you just have to maintain the attribution explaining where to get the database used to create the produced work (ODbL 4.3).

And if you then fetch and use the database, you are receiving, modifying and distributing the database under ODbL, not BY-SA.

So there are two parallel distribution and derivation graphs, of the ODbL-licenced databse and the (sometimes) BY-SA licenced works. Neither interferes with the rights granted under the other.

I'm not sure if that's intentional or not.  I suspect the creators of
the ODbL wanted to have their cake and eat it too.  But you can't do

Well, to make sure everyone gets the recipe for the cake. ;-)

that.  If the data can be used in a produced work under BY-SA, then the
data has to be BY-SA.

No it doesn't. That's why there is such a thing as a produced work in contrast to a derivative work.

(I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.)

- Rob.

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