On Tuesday 16 January 2007 14:26, Lawrie Griffiths wrote:
> Charles,
>
> What support for the high-speed RS485 link are you considering? Would this
> be a highspeed link between port 4 on two or more NXTs? Can you use a
> standard NXT sensor cable for this? To attach more than 1 extra NXT in this
> way, would we need some sort of multiplexor?

Don't know yet, but from a cursory glance, p-net looks pretty good.

I think this will allow NXT<->NXT comms with just a standard NXT cable. I have 
not checked yet, but perhaps termination etc will be required.

>
> Lawrie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Manning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Lejos-discussion] NXJ: USB memory to upgrade NXT brick memory
>
>
> I had a look at the factory and think that this would be very doable with
> only
> NXJ (with a few more features implemented :-)) using a similar architecture
> to that used by the factory.
>
> There are really two major architectural components:
> * Station controllers
> * Work-flow controller (which could run on one of the staion controllers).
> This sequences the operation of the various subsystems.
>
> Consider that real factories of a few years back (and I daresay still
> running
> today) often get controlled by Z80-level ladder-logic controller with far
> less RAM, flash and CPU than an NXT.
>
> My preferred NXT comms mechanism for a project like this would probably be
> the
> RS485 link. Few people realise that there is an RS485 link built into the
> one
> sensor channel. This provides a multi-drop peer-to-peer link that can
> shuffle
> data at high reliability and  pretty high speeds.  It is not yet suported
> by NXJ.
>
> On Tuesday 16 January 2007 10:24, Brian Bagnall wrote:
> > That Auto Factory video is amazing! I've never seen that before.
> >
> > For the larger AI type of projects I've been using PC side with iCommand,
> > pretty much what Roger said. For video and mapping you really need a
> > laptop
> > in the equation, both because of memory but also having a nice big color
> > display to show a map.
> >
> > We won't try to do a full Java Standard Edition API on the NXT because a
> > lot of that API is for things that don't exist on the NXT, like mouse
> > input, keyboard, big color display, etc... Instead we're probably going
> > to have something similar to the Java Mobile Information Device API,
> > since the
> > NXT is pretty much a mobile device:
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr118/
> >
> > - Brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JAB, Juan Antonio Breña Moral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Lejos-discussion] NXJ: USB memory to upgrade NXT brick
> > memory
> >
> > > Yes in this stage, the NXT community try to create different Languajes
> > > and Platforms to increase the bot's complexity.
> > >
> > > If you see, NXTLog, http://mindstorms.lego.com/NXTLOG/default.aspx,
> > > you can see:
> > >
> > > + Cars
> > > + Tanks
> > > + Catapults
> > > + Basic Bipeds
> > >
> > > If you notice, that kind of bots are very easy to build. Sometimes
> > > you see exceptions as Car Factory,
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ3AcPEPbH0 or
> > > NXTMech,
> > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=213353
> > >
> > > This is the future, in my opinion. With NXJ we can build complex
> > > bots but we should work to:
> > >
> > > + Win with NXJ in Platform NXT Market and improve iCommand to
> > > work as Bridge between NXJ and Internet...
> > > + Avoid 3 Motor limitation.
> > > + Improve the communication between 2 Bricks.
> > >
> > > my question about external memory is based on the needs of improve the
> > > complexity of algorithms and the needs to create a full featured JVM
> > > in NXT brick.
> > >
> > > It is possible to store a full featured JVM in a External Memory and
> > > create a Minimal Kernel into NXT brick to use that external memory
> > > as internal?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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