Hi Viktor,

A great simplification of Leo would still leave it feature rich for a
writer. I have often wondered if that would crack that market for Leo.

As Twain said though, I wrote a long letter as I didn't have time to write
a short one.

Chris

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Viktor Ransmayr <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Chris,
>
> I think the proposal made can fully support your criterias, which I fully
> support.
>
> Both Visual Studio Code & Atom are available on Linux & do not require
> Internet Access. - So far they only miss Outlines with clones - but - they
> offer a lot of 'infrastructure', which Leo as an environment will (most
> likely) never get ...
>
> I think it is interesting to discuss what would be needed to create a "Leo
> experience" in another environment.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Viktor
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chris George <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I had three criteria drive me to Leo, and nothing has changed in half a
>> decade or more.
>>
>> 1. Linux support and not as an afterthought.
>> 2. Offline support, simply because the requirement of the Internet is a
>> brittle requirement that relies on a lot of things going right for a lot of
>> people every day.
>> 3. Outliner with clones. I can find 5 or 6 that have this that are
>> online. But Leo is the only one that doesn't require being online.
>>
>> Given that I haven't run a Microsoft operating system since 2001 on my
>> personal computer, step one, which is to chain Leo to a single OS/App
>> pairing, I have no interest. But then IANAP, I am a writer and that is what
>> I use Leo for.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Viktor Ransmayr <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello community,
>>>
>>> I'd be very interested in such an experiment & would provide personal
>>> input & support.
>>>
>>> With kind regards,
>>>
>>> Viktor Ransmayr
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:18 AM, 'tfer' via leo-editor <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There have been some discussions in the past on what we might do to
>>>> make Leo more popular.  I've recently had some time out in the woods and
>>>> was hit with a tack that just might do that.
>>>>
>>>> If you do anything in the world of JavaScript you're aware of ability
>>>> to use it and nodejs frameworks to build standalone apps.  In fact, there
>>>> are two popular editors that use that technology, there is Github's Atom,
>>>> and Microsoft's Visual Code.
>>>>
>>>> So here is what I'm proposing, make Leo into a plug-in for Visual
>>>> Code.  We'd need to pare down Leo, dropping the Qt code and using html and
>>>> JavaScript to build a Outline pane (Note that the file browser pane works
>>>> as a tree view of directories so we can steal some code from there).  There
>>>> is already support for a log, (shell).  The editor pane would just have to
>>>> be hooked up to the Outline pane and set to the relevant language.  It's
>>>> perfectly possible to use both JavaScript and Python in such an app.
>>>>
>>>> We would have the advantage and visibility of latching on to a popular
>>>> and growing editor, get features for free that would likely never get into
>>>> Leo and move over to what is becoming the most popular visual toolkit for
>>>> interface design, one based on Html, CSS, and JavaScript.
>>>>
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