Hi Viktor,

Sorry, I was unfamiliar with code.

Both it and atom are editors. Leo is an editor and then some.

It would be interesting to write a "code" Leo or a "atom" Leo, somewhat 
like Edward wrote a "vim" Leo. Make it keystroke and gui identical (Leo 
encompasses all of the functions of either/or) and then enjoy the added 
features of Leo with the exact same functionality of both.

I see Leo as far more than an editor and have stuck with it for so long as 
the small subset of features I need is constantly expanding. That said, 
both atom and code also far surpass what I need in an editor.

Chris

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 10:07:29 AM UTC-7, Chris George wrote:
>
> Hi Viktor,
>
> A great simplification of Leo would still leave it feature rich for a 
> writer. I have often wondered if that would crack that market for Leo.
>
> As Twain said though, I wrote a long letter as I didn't have time to write 
> a short one.
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Viktor Ransmayr <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> I think the proposal made can fully support your criterias, which I fully 
>> support. 
>>
>> Both Visual Studio Code & Atom are available on Linux & do not require 
>> Internet Access. - So far they only miss Outlines with clones - but - they 
>> offer a lot of 'infrastructure', which Leo as an environment will (most 
>> likely) never get ...
>>
>> I think it is interesting to discuss what would be needed to create a 
>> "Leo experience" in another environment.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Viktor
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chris George <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had three criteria drive me to Leo, and nothing has changed in half a 
>>> decade or more.
>>>
>>> 1. Linux support and not as an afterthought.
>>> 2. Offline support, simply because the requirement of the Internet is a 
>>> brittle requirement that relies on a lot of things going right for a lot of 
>>> people every day.
>>> 3. Outliner with clones. I can find 5 or 6 that have this that are 
>>> online. But Leo is the only one that doesn't require being online.
>>>
>>> Given that I haven't run a Microsoft operating system since 2001 on my 
>>> personal computer, step one, which is to chain Leo to a single OS/App 
>>> pairing, I have no interest. But then IANAP, I am a writer and that is what 
>>> I use Leo for.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Viktor Ransmayr <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello community,
>>>>
>>>> I'd be very interested in such an experiment & would provide personal 
>>>> input & support.
>>>>
>>>> With kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Viktor Ransmayr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:18 AM, 'tfer' via leo-editor <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There have been some discussions in the past on what we might do to 
>>>>> make Leo more popular.  I've recently had some time out in the woods and 
>>>>> was hit with a tack that just might do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do anything in the world of JavaScript you're aware of ability 
>>>>> to use it and nodejs frameworks to build standalone apps.  In fact, there 
>>>>> are two popular editors that use that technology, there is Github's Atom, 
>>>>> and Microsoft's Visual Code.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here is what I'm proposing, make Leo into a plug-in for Visual 
>>>>> Code.  We'd need to pare down Leo, dropping the Qt code and using html 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> JavaScript to build a Outline pane (Note that the file browser pane works 
>>>>> as a tree view of directories so we can steal some code from there).  
>>>>> There 
>>>>> is already support for a log, (shell).  The editor pane would just have 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> be hooked up to the Outline pane and set to the relevant language.  It's 
>>>>> perfectly possible to use both JavaScript and Python in such an app.
>>>>>
>>>>> We would have the advantage and visibility of latching on to a popular 
>>>>> and growing editor, get features for free that would likely never get 
>>>>> into 
>>>>> Leo and move over to what is becoming the most popular visual toolkit for 
>>>>> interface design, one based on Html, CSS, and JavaScript. 
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