I'll give it a try (kubuntu linux, mainly) and let you know what I find...

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:18:42 AM UTC tbp1...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been working on a command to run an external file (@file, @clean 
> ...).  I think it is ready, and I'd appreciate it if other folks could test 
> it for me.  The idea is that you select a node in the external file tree 
> and launch the command.  It works on Windows and Linux but not Mac (I need 
> more information about the Mac, and I don't have one for testing).
>
> As long as the processing program such as Ruby, Python, Julia, is on the 
> path (and the file is a known file type) - or you specify it in a @data 
> setting node - a new terminal will open, run your GUI or console program, 
> and wait for you to close it.
>
> The new command is the @button node in the attached Leo outline.  I 
> suggest copying in into the @buttons tree in your myLeoSettings.leo outline 
> and restarting Leo.
>
> The languages it can handle without adding an @data node - it's documented 
> in the command's docstring - are python, shell, batch (for Windows), ruby, 
> lua, and julia.
>
> Here are some technical details -
>
> This command was hard to get working right on Linux (and I can't swear 
> that it will work on Linux if the external file name has spaces), and the 
> reason was my requirement to open a new terminal and keep it open after the 
> external program finishes.  I want that so that any output can be seen and 
> studied.  
>
> It's easy to launch a program and have it write to Leo's own console, but 
> that is not ideal, because 1) other Leo output may get mixed in with the 
> external program's or the output may get scrolled offscreen; 2) if the 
> external program crashes, it may leave your Leo console running a secondary 
> shell; and 3) if you launch a GUI program that lasts a long time your 
> output may get very confusing.
>
> It turns out that to reliably keep the new terminal open on Linux, you 
> have to open a terminal and use that to run the shell, not just launch the 
> shell.  This is a problem because there are a lot of Linux distros and they 
> don't all have the same terminal.  In particular, the different terminals 
> don't always use the same options to run a shell with its command line.  
> The shell may also differ.  Almost all desktops use bash, usually at 
> /usr/bin/bash, but a user can change that and some do.
>
> So we can't assume that the shell will be bash, nor what the terminal may 
> be.  x-terminal-emulator does not give you the same options across distros, 
> either.  $TERM doesn't actually give you the terminal either, just a 
> logical terminal so the right colors can be set up. 
>
> To keep the terminal open after the command runs, some terminals have an 
> option for that, some have the option but it doesn't work, and some don't 
> have the option. Also, the option name is subject to change (I found at 
> least one distro that issued a deprecation warning) So we need another 
> solution.  My solution is to have the shell wait for user input after the 
> main command finishes.  After a long time running queries on the Internet I 
> have not found a more workable way.
>
> So how do we find the terminal and shell?  By running pstree -s $$ and 
> parsing its output.  Then we run that terminal with --help and try to 
> parse the help message to find the right option.  This works on all cases 
> I've tried, but it's probably a little fragile.
>
> If the shell isn't bash, or we can't figure it out, we use the $SHELL 
> variable.
>
> Then we use the command's internal table, or the system file association, 
> to find the right processor to run.  We also check to make sure it can 
> actually be found.
>
> Finally we can construct the command and run it.  Whew, that was tricky!  
> It's easier on Windows because we don't have to discover the terminal and 
> shell, and the launch options are always the same.
>
> For the Mac, I don't know the terminal or shell names nor the right 
> options to invoke.  I'm pretty sure that if I learn them this command will 
> work on a Mac too.
>
>

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