If nobody complains about it in another week, I'll package it up as a new 
Leo command.

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:15:40 AM UTC-5 jkn wrote:

> I'll give it a try (kubuntu linux, mainly) and let you know what I find...
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 6:18:42 AM UTC tbp1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been working on a command to run an external file (@file, @clean 
>> ...).  I think it is ready, and I'd appreciate it if other folks could test 
>> it for me.  The idea is that you select a node in the external file tree 
>> and launch the command.  It works on Windows and Linux but not Mac (I need 
>> more information about the Mac, and I don't have one for testing).
>>
>> As long as the processing program such as Ruby, Python, Julia, is on the 
>> path (and the file is a known file type) - or you specify it in a @data 
>> setting node - a new terminal will open, run your GUI or console program, 
>> and wait for you to close it.
>>
>> The new command is the @button node in the attached Leo outline.  I 
>> suggest copying in into the @buttons tree in your myLeoSettings.leo outline 
>> and restarting Leo.
>>
>> The languages it can handle without adding an @data node - it's 
>> documented in the command's docstring - are python, shell, batch (for 
>> Windows), ruby, lua, and julia.
>>
>> Here are some technical details -
>>
>> This command was hard to get working right on Linux (and I can't swear 
>> that it will work on Linux if the external file name has spaces), and the 
>> reason was my requirement to open a new terminal and keep it open after the 
>> external program finishes.  I want that so that any output can be seen and 
>> studied.  
>>
>> It's easy to launch a program and have it write to Leo's own console, but 
>> that is not ideal, because 1) other Leo output may get mixed in with the 
>> external program's or the output may get scrolled offscreen; 2) if the 
>> external program crashes, it may leave your Leo console running a secondary 
>> shell; and 3) if you launch a GUI program that lasts a long time your 
>> output may get very confusing.
>>
>> It turns out that to reliably keep the new terminal open on Linux, you 
>> have to open a terminal and use that to run the shell, not just launch the 
>> shell.  This is a problem because there are a lot of Linux distros and they 
>> don't all have the same terminal.  In particular, the different terminals 
>> don't always use the same options to run a shell with its command line.  
>> The shell may also differ.  Almost all desktops use bash, usually at 
>> /usr/bin/bash, but a user can change that and some do.
>>
>> So we can't assume that the shell will be bash, nor what the terminal may 
>> be.  x-terminal-emulator does not give you the same options across distros, 
>> either.  $TERM doesn't actually give you the terminal either, just a 
>> logical terminal so the right colors can be set up. 
>>
>> To keep the terminal open after the command runs, some terminals have an 
>> option for that, some have the option but it doesn't work, and some don't 
>> have the option. Also, the option name is subject to change (I found at 
>> least one distro that issued a deprecation warning) So we need another 
>> solution.  My solution is to have the shell wait for user input after the 
>> main command finishes.  After a long time running queries on the Internet I 
>> have not found a more workable way.
>>
>> So how do we find the terminal and shell?  By running pstree -s $$ and 
>> parsing its output.  Then we run that terminal with --help and try to 
>> parse the help message to find the right option.  This works on all cases 
>> I've tried, but it's probably a little fragile.
>>
>> If the shell isn't bash, or we can't figure it out, we use the $SHELL 
>> variable.
>>
>> Then we use the command's internal table, or the system file association, 
>> to find the right processor to run.  We also check to make sure it can 
>> actually be found.
>>
>> Finally we can construct the command and run it.  Whew, that was tricky!  
>> It's easier on Windows because we don't have to discover the terminal and 
>> shell, and the launch options are always the same.
>>
>> For the Mac, I don't know the terminal or shell names nor the right 
>> options to invoke.  I'm pretty sure that if I learn them this command will 
>> work on a Mac too.
>>
>>

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