Em 14-06-2014 14:33, Richard Melville escreveu:
> On 14 June 2014 00:02, Baho Utot <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:46:21 PM Armin K. wrote:
>     > On 06/13/2014 09:34 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:

>>> Yes, I have sudo, but I use the
>>> Package Users

>     >
>     > I don't really know what are you pointing at. Shadow will install "su"
>     > binary without PAM at all. You won't have any "su" executable in
>     /tools
>     > though since no package installs it anymore. You could try and install
>     > shadow in there if you really need it, but imho, package users is
>     really
>     > terrible packaging method. I think Fernando uses paco or something
>     like
>     > that, and that sounds more elegant to me.

Yes, but it has problems:

$ paco -sMFCndd xulrunner-30 firefox-30 thunderbird-24.6
368k [ ]   4 [ ] ( 2)  12-Jun-2014 16:54  firefox-30.0
   0 [ ]   1 [ ] ( 1)  12-Jun-2014 18:22  thunderbird-24.6.0
388k [ ]  15 [ ] ( 6)  12-Jun-2014 20:38  xulrunner-30.0

The sizes and number of files (so the logged files themselves) are not
correct.

I think I know the reason.

> 
> Paco is excellent for *LFS; it's a simple package logger with an
> uninstall option, however, it's now become Porg (porg.sourceforge.net
> <http://porg.sourceforge.net>). I haven't tried the new build as I'm
> still using the last available paco release, so I'm not sure what porg
> offers that paco didn't.

When it works correctly, it is good.

Yesterday, I updated bind in the book and paco worked fine. After, just ran:

paco -r bind

It was removed bind from my dev machine.

But the use for me is more to have a quick way to inspect what I have
installed. This helps with dependencies. I also use Bruce's method, but
paco gives maore info, e.g. the files/directories that were installed.
But it is not 100% reliable, and I use DESTDIR, find, tree, etc, for dev
work.

When I have time, will try porg (didn't know, thanks).

-- 
[]s,
Fernando
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