On 14 June 2014 19:13, Fernando de Oliveira <[email protected]> wrote:

> Em 14-06-2014 14:33, Richard Melville escreveu:
> > On 14 June 2014 00:02, Baho Utot <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:46:21 PM Armin K. wrote:
> >     > On 06/13/2014 09:34 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
>
> >>> Yes, I have sudo, but I use the
> >>> Package Users
>
> >     >
> >     > I don't really know what are you pointing at. Shadow will install
> "su"
> >     > binary without PAM at all. You won't have any "su" executable in
> >     /tools
> >     > though since no package installs it anymore. You could try and
> install
> >     > shadow in there if you really need it, but imho, package users is
> >     really
> >     > terrible packaging method. I think Fernando uses paco or something
> >     like
> >     > that, and that sounds more elegant to me.
>
> Yes, but it has problems:
>
> $ paco -sMFCndd xulrunner-30 firefox-30 thunderbird-24.6
> 368k [ ]   4 [ ] ( 2)  12-Jun-2014 16:54  firefox-30.0
>    0 [ ]   1 [ ] ( 1)  12-Jun-2014 18:22  thunderbird-24.6.0
> 388k [ ]  15 [ ] ( 6)  12-Jun-2014 20:38  xulrunner-30.0
>
> The sizes and number of files (so the logged files themselves) are not
> correct.
>
> I think I know the reason.
>
> >
> > Paco is excellent for *LFS; it's a simple package logger with an
> > uninstall option, however, it's now become Porg (porg.sourceforge.net
> > <http://porg.sourceforge.net>). I haven't tried the new build as I'm
> > still using the last available paco release, so I'm not sure what porg
> > offers that paco didn't.
>
> When it works correctly, it is good.
>
> Yesterday, I updated bind in the book and paco worked fine. After, just
> ran:
>
> paco -r bind
>
> It was removed bind from my dev machine.
>
> But the use for me is more to have a quick way to inspect what I have
> installed. This helps with dependencies. I also use Bruce's method, but
> paco gives maore info, e.g. the files/directories that were installed.
> But it is not 100% reliable, and I use DESTDIR, find, tree, etc, for dev
> work.
>

That's interesting.  I've never found it to be unreliable but then, like
you, I only use it as a simple logger, providing a list of installed
packages and paths, with the occasional use of the uninstall function.

>
> When I have time, will try porg (didn't know, thanks).
>

De nada -- I'd be interested in the results.

Richard
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