Merging replies to/for Ken and Bruce since it's one thread...

> a quick look at your past few posts (or rather, those which I have
> received - it's always possible my upstream decided to drop one ) only
> shows things to do with the headers.

For clarification then on this fast moving news <cough, cough>: I was
getting failures on the API headers, couldn't figure out why, Bruce
suggested starting over.  Did so.  Then, magically, I got through the
API headers but died at the GCC check.  Stuck there for now with
everything in place for diagnosis.

> My memory of 7.7 is very feint, and in those days my test systems

"Feint" as in "dodgey"?  ;-D

> were all AMD, but I do recall that until recently I got various
> failures in gcc.  Indeed, that book uses 'make -k check' because
> failures ARE expected.  If you get only a few, you are probably good
> to continue.  If you get 500+ (been there in LFS-6 on (unsupported)
> ppc) things have broken.

It was going well, but whatever it is caused the make script to fail.

> Actually, that reminds me - the contrib script used to let me run the
> tests in parallel and then summarise the results.  At some time in the
> past couple of years I now recall posting (on -dev) that I was getting
> a LOT of failures in the c++ tests.  In the end, the solution was to
> use -j1 for the tests.

OK.  I've used -j1 in the past, but the book doesn't say so here, as
it does elsewhere, so I was doing -j8 (still modest for a 4 core
hyperthreaded i7 I suppose).  I can certainly give that a try, if
it's decided there are no fingerprints to find with the current state
of affairs.

> [ snipping stuff about jhalfs because I don't use it - but you
> probably want the latest version from svn ].

Actually I'd rather NOT use jhalfs because it wouldn't fit in with my
existing infrastructure.  All I was expecting from it were scripts I
could check against mine.

> The other thing is that most people who are regularly contributing to
> this list think 7.7 is *old*.  At the moment, anybody doing

It's not that old!  IMO, of course.  Only two releases back.

> development testing is discovering the pleasures (in the sense of
> "this is now undefined behaviour, so we'll trash it") of g++-6.1.

Sounds like some other organization we all know and love. <cough, cough>

> I hope you figure out what the problem is, and that you enjoy your
> builds, but I don't expect a lot of interest in 7.7.

Don't let the label put you off, the book's procedure for the basic
toolchain isn't any different.

>
> I talked to some techs today and thy said it was probably a capacitor
> problem in the power supply.  If disconnected for an extended time,
> they lose some of their properties.  Most power supplies have some
> sort of trickle current even when powered off.

Indeed, all ATX powersupplies do!  The motherboard is powered at all
times. :-o  On ATX boxes the only switch for 110v power is, if it's
there and isn't always ("Hey, it costs us a nickle!"), on the power
supply itself.  The front panel switch is merely a momentary contact on
the "Hey, wake up" line.  That's why the CPU can power it down, you can
do WOL, WOM, WOK, even WOT, etc.

> They said I should probably replace the power supply, but that would
> probably cost more than the whole system is worth.

I'm a salvager, or Boy Scout depending on your point of view.  I strip
boxes before dumping them.  I've got half a dozen BAT P/S, likewise ATX.
If I have a sudden failure, it'll be 10PM Saturday night!  I want to be
able to go to my office, dig out a replacement part, install, and power-
up ASAP.  Be prepared.

> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz

Never liked P4's--too hot!  Rather run a P3.

> Actually I'm suprised a bit about the price on ebay: $130.  A new
> PS is $40.

Try Fry's.  A P4 ATX P/S shouldn't cost much, $20-30 on sale.  Keeping
a functioning old system around does have its benefits.  I am
convinced of that!

> It might cut down on your questions if you would check the development
> book instead of questioning things published over a year ago.

Oh, I do, it DOES!  (When you get to be my age, a year ago wasn't
that long!)

> It takes time to address your concerns and we generally don't mind
> doing that.  However, it does waste our time going over old issues
> that are already fixed.

I wasn't questioning the libc.so.6.  It was found.  Since I don't know
what the problem might be, I was showing all the ones not found.  It
isn't clear to me why they aren't found and if that's a/the problem. And
yes, I have checked the 7.9 book and it appears no different but the gcc
version number.

At the moment I have no better idea than Ken's -j1, and that isn't in
either book.
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