On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:12:45PM +0200, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> On 2014-08-28 18:58 +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:28:56 +0200, =?utf-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgQsWTc2No?= 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list
> > > between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms.
> > > 
> > > The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send
> > > the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can continue to
> > > drop or add codecs & filters without caring about the other, but will try
> > > to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users.
> > > 
> > > At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two
> > > projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project
> > > trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce
> > > some common technical ground.
> > > 
> > > What do you think?
> > 
> > While some kind of non-hostile coexistence or even cooperation is desirable 
> > and
> > might even be possible, I have large doubts that this specific approach can
> > work.
> > 
> > First, some of your project's developers (most importantly your leader)
> > are being actively hostile to our project. That includes spreading FUD 
> > about us
> > all over the internet, stalking our new contributors, etc. I do not think 
> > any
> > kind of cooperation can work while this crap goes on.
> > 
> > Second, how do you propose this arrangement will actually function? As you
> > probably know, I see many of the API additions done in your project as ugly
> > hacks, and would be strongly opposed to having them in our tree in their 
> > current
> > form. Conversely, some API changes done in Libav were AFAIK rejected by your
> > leader. So -- what happens when one side proposes a change that the other 
> > side
> > fundamentally disagrees with.
> > And furthermore -- what would ensure that the code actually gets pushed to 
> > both
> > trees. Because otherwise there really is no point to this.
> 
>   Please read what you wrote again; it is almost completely hostile
> towards FFmpeg...

Sorry Alexander, but I believe you know the difference between calling
somebody's code a hack and calling a person names.

Diego
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