On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 08:19:55AM -0700, Timothy Gu wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Diego Biurrun <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:33:19AM +0200, wm4 wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:00:45 +0200
> >> Diego Biurrun <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:28:56AM +0200, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Kieran suggested tonight on #ffmpeg-devel to have a common mailing-list
> >> > > between the two projects to start communicating again in sane terms.
> >> > >
> >> > > The proposition would be a mailing-list where the 2 projects would send
> >> > > the patches that will make API evolutions. So the projects can 
> >> > > continue to
> >> > > drop or add codecs & filters without caring about the other, but will 
> >> > > try
> >> > > to communicate more about the API, for the sake of our common users.
> >> > >
> >> > > At first, I suggest that won't engage anything from any of the two
> >> > > projects (so we don't end up in a stalled states such as one project
> >> > > trying to block the other), but it could be seen as a way to introduce
> >> > > some common technical ground.
> >> >
> >> > Your use of "engaged" makes my English parser return ENOUNDERSTAND.
> >> >
> >> > > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > I think or thought that this proposal was mostly a trollbait and 
> >> > discarded
> >> > replying so far, but you appear genuinely convinced that something like
> >> > this is a suitable first, and not - say - seventh, step, so I'll bite.
> >> >
> >> > Often times API additions or changes are discussed on this mailing list.
> >> > You FFmpeg people are all subscribed here; what stops you from replying
> >> > on this mailing list?
> >>
> >> The same thing that stops Anton from making constructive comments on
> >> those "horrible" FFmpeg APIs on the FFmpeg ML,
> >
> > There's the issue of hostility and personal insults to consider, don't
> > you agree?  There are no such things happening here.
> 
> There are no insults, but there are reviews from FFmpeg developers
> that are ignored here, which are even worse IMO.

That is a peculiar stance to take.

> Latest cases I have spotted:
> 
> http://lists.libav.org/pipermail/libav-devel/2014-August/062391.html:
> the first more important point was not considered in the only reply to
> the post

This patch was not pushed yet and subsequent patches take the issue into
account.

> http://lists.libav.org/pipermail/libav-devel/2013-November/053158.html:
> the VP9 decoder was pushed without addressing the original author's
> concern.

That was not a review and this VP9 story was preceded by the HEVC story.

Diego
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