If it is 33K separate sources of funding it means that they need to be transparent even more then before. Being opaque at this time has the possibility to cast a large shadow of distrust upon the entire community in the future. While I empathize the need desire for security and confidentiality, but I think the solicitation of emergency funding adds the moral requirement to be as transparent as possible about what happened. Otherwise Avaaz is positioning itself to eventually become Chicken Little.
As a practical question, does anyone know if this is Avaaz's first DDoS or Cybersecurity incident? -Andrew On May 4, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Jillian C. York wrote: > Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't > really see what you're getting at. > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <[email protected]> wrote: > Clarification. That's 33,000 individual donations. Not $33k. That should get > them started. > -sw > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the Comm > department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask. > > I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz folks > will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment, this > looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would lose a > lot of respect for the org. > > DK > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400 > > Sahar Massachi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's sensationalism. > >> > >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following > >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me: > >> > >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz > >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their communications > >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The > >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly > >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they can. > >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the > >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work tech > >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these > >> journalists". > >> > >> Am I missing something? > >> > > > > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while > > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and > > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what? > > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp > > > > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask this > > amount of money to my boss. 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