Andrew, I seem to remember them claiming DDoS last year, blaming China for retaliating against a petition for Wei-Wei.
-Joanne Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Andrew Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > If it is 33K separate sources of funding it means that they need to be > transparent even more then before. Being opaque at this time has the > possibility to cast a large shadow of distrust upon the entire community in > the future. While I empathize the need desire for security and > confidentiality, but I think the solicitation of emergency funding adds the > moral requirement to be as transparent as possible about what happened. > Otherwise Avaaz is positioning itself to eventually become Chicken Little. > > > As a practical question, does anyone know if this is Avaaz's first DDoS or > Cybersecurity incident? > > -Andrew > > > > On May 4, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Jillian C. York wrote: > >> Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't >> really see what you're getting at. >> >> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Clarification. That's 33,000 individual donations. Not $33k. That should get >> them started. >> -sw >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <[email protected]> wrote: >> Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the Comm >> department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask. >> >> I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz folks >> will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment, this >> looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would lose a >> lot of respect for the org. >> >> DK >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400 >> > Sahar Massachi <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's sensationalism. >> >> >> >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following >> >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me: >> >> >> >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz >> >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their communications >> >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The >> >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly >> >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they can. >> >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the >> >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work tech >> >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these >> >> journalists". >> >> >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> >> > >> > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while >> > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and >> > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what? >> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp >> > >> > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask this >> > amount of money to my boss. 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