Ah, apologies, I read the comment backwards, so to speak. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Shaun Wilde <[email protected]>wrote:
> Was clarifying Okhin's musing about what their goal of 35k$ was for. Their > goal is 35,000 *donations*. Likely to the tune of... who knows. > $500,000? If we're wondering what they'd do with 35k$, an even more > interesting brainstorm is what they'll do with 500k$. Hard to know without > knowing anything about the attack--except that it was massive. > *-sw > > * > > > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Jillian C. York > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Unless those 33,000 individual donations were less than $1 each, I don't >> really see what you're getting at. >> >> >> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Shaun Wilde <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Clarification. That's 33,000 *individual donations. *Not $33k. That >>> should get them started. >>> -sw >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Dave Karpf <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Agreed that that's what makes it importantly different. This wasn't the >>> Comm department responding to reporters, it was an active fundraising ask. >>> >>> I'm withholding judgment for the moment, but sincerely hope the Avaaz >>> folks will be more open with the tech experts on this list. At the moment, >>> this looks a LOT like a crass fundraising ploy. If so, I personally would >>> lose a lot of respect for the org. >>> >>> DK >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Okhin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > On Fri, 4 May 2012 15:48:35 -0400 >>> > Sahar Massachi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I'm a bit concerned about all the muttering about Avaaz's >>> sensationalism. >>> >> >>> >> Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding something, but the following >>> >> scenario seems pretty plausible to me: >>> >> >>> >> The Avaaz site comes under some sort of attack. The tech team at Avaaz >>> >> gives a quick "idiots guide" to what's going on to their >>> communications >>> >> team, and then goes back to trying to deal with the problem. The >>> >> communications team has a partially confused understanding of exactly >>> >> what's going on, but tries to deal with the situation as best they >>> can. >>> >> When technically minded journalists want to talk to Avaaz, the >>> >> communications staff doesn't want to bother their still-hard-at-work >>> tech >>> >> team, so they give unsatisfying, vague, and unhelpful replies to these >>> >> journalists". >>> >> >>> >> Am I missing something? >>> >> >>> > >>> > Yeah, they started a funding campaign to fight the attack and, while >>> > the attack has stopped (according to their claim), it's still open and >>> > their goal is 35k$ (and they're at 33k$)for what? >>> > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_attack_on_avaaz_a/?fp >>> > >>> > Next time I've got a spam bot raiding my corporate network, I'll ask >>> this amount of money to my boss. 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