I think guys like Jillian and Douglas should be more public with their rhetoric. Really, I agree with your views, but I can't cup my ears to a debate that the conservative security community is largely overwhelming me in.
NK On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Jillian C. York <[email protected]>wrote: > +1. > > A *safer *web-based tool than Facebook chat with a GIANT WARNING is far > better than everyone continuing to hold their discussions in insecure fora. > > I get the problem here, I do: You most certainly don't want people to > think your tool is 100% safe when it's not. But moving to a browser add-on > only doesn't solve the main problem: That many, many, *many* people who > need encrypted chat do not control/admin the device on which they want to > chat. > > If users were probably warned, would that satisfy others? > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Douglas Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Libtech and Nadim, >> >> Is it possible for both versions of crypto.cat to be available? That is >> to say, maintain the existing version of quick, disposable chat rooms, >> and then also create the new, more secure version with the XMPP and the >> browser extension? >> >> I ask because in my experience it's easy to get "ordinary civilians" to >> use current disposable crypto.cat chatrooms -- shoot them the link, and >> suddenly they're off facebook or google chat, which they've heard enough >> nasty things about already -- and in so doing, begin to lure them to >> what some might call the dark arts. Whereas with the planned extension + >> login/password version, the barrier to entry (at least for my target >> demographic) is significantly higher. >> >> A devil's advocate could argue the existence of two versions would >> disincentive people from ever moving to more secure methods, but I don't >> have anything like the empirical numbers to know what would really happen. >> >> In any case, crypto.cat is appreciated! >> >> :-Douglas >> _______________________________________________ >> liberationtech mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: >> >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click >> above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily >> digest?" >> >> You will need the user name and password you receive from the list >> moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. >> >> Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech >> > > > > -- > *+1-857-891-4244 |** jilliancyork.com | @jilliancyork * > > "We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the > seemingly impossible to become a reality" - *Vaclav Havel* > > > >
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