That's been an increasing problem with the security community lately, and it has lead to less security overall when trying to get support to people in the field.
-Andrew On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected]> wrote: > I think guys like Jillian and Douglas should be more public with their > rhetoric. Really, I agree with your views, but I can't cup my ears to a > debate that the conservative security community is largely overwhelming me in. > > NK > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Jillian C. York <[email protected]> > wrote: > +1. > > A safer web-based tool than Facebook chat with a GIANT WARNING is far better > than everyone continuing to hold their discussions in insecure fora. > > I get the problem here, I do: You most certainly don't want people to think > your tool is 100% safe when it's not. But moving to a browser add-on only > doesn't solve the main problem: That many, many, many people who need > encrypted chat do not control/admin the device on which they want to chat. > > If users were probably warned, would that satisfy others? > > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Douglas Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Libtech and Nadim, > > Is it possible for both versions of crypto.cat to be available? That is > to say, maintain the existing version of quick, disposable chat rooms, > and then also create the new, more secure version with the XMPP and the > browser extension? > > I ask because in my experience it's easy to get "ordinary civilians" to > use current disposable crypto.cat chatrooms -- shoot them the link, and > suddenly they're off facebook or google chat, which they've heard enough > nasty things about already -- and in so doing, begin to lure them to > what some might call the dark arts. Whereas with the planned extension + > login/password version, the barrier to entry (at least for my target > demographic) is significantly higher. > > A devil's advocate could argue the existence of two versions would > disincentive people from ever moving to more secure methods, but I don't > have anything like the empirical numbers to know what would really happen. > > In any case, crypto.cat is appreciated! > > :-Douglas > _______________________________________________ > liberationtech mailing list > [email protected] > > Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click > above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily > digest?" > > You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator > in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. > > Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech > > > > -- > +1-857-891-4244 | jilliancyork.com | @jilliancyork > > "We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the > seemingly impossible to become a reality" - Vaclav Havel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > liberationtech mailing list > [email protected] > > Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you click > above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily > digest?" > > You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator > in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. > > Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
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