Please add The Public Sphere Project. I'll be happy to sign also: Douglas Schuler
good work! -- Doug On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: > Amazing :) > > Thanks for your support, everyone! > > > NK > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Petter Ericson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi! > > Good work :) > > First: some nitpicking: third-parties in the second paragraph should > probably lose the hyphen. > > Second: I would be very happy to see a Telecomix signature on this > letter :) > > Best regards > > /P > > On 18 January, 2013 - Nadim Kobeissi wrote: > > > Okay everyone, > > the *final draft* has been posted online, with the gracious collaboration > > of the EFF. Please take a look at it, make sure you want to keep your > > signature there (or add it!) > > > > http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/ > > > > We'll be publishing next week. > > > > > > NK > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Grégoire Pouget <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We'd like to see the final / rewritten version of the letter first but > > > Reporters > > > Without Borders <http://rsf.org> would be happy to sign it. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Le 17/01/2013 08:01, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit : > > > > > > Thanks for your expert advice, Chris. We're currently in the process of > > > reworking the letter with assistance from the EFF and we'll take what you > > > said into consideration. > > > > > > > > > NK > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Christopher Soghoian > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > >> You may want to consider rewriting your law enforcement/government > > >> surveillance section: > > >> > > >> As a result of the service being acquired by Microsoft in 2011, it may > > >> now be required to comply with CALEA due to the company being > > >> headquartered > > >> in Redmond, Washington. Furthermore, as a US-based communication > > >> provider, > > >> Skype would therefore be required to comply with the secretive practice > > >> of > > >> National Security Letters. > > >> > > >> > > >> You don't articulate why being subject to CALEA is bad. Are the people > > >> signing the letter arguing that law enforcement should never have access > > >> to > > >> real-time intercepts of skype voice/video communications? If so, say > > >> that, > > >> and why. If not, CALEA merely mandates access capabilities, it doesn't > > >> specify under what situations the government can perform an interception, > > >> > > >> Also, if you want to raise the issue of secretive surveillance > > >> practices, NSLs wouldn't be at the top of my list (yes, they don't > > >> require > > >> a judge, but they can at best be used to obtain communications > > >> metadata). I > > >> would instead focus your criticism of the fact that US surveillance law > > >> does not sufficiently protect communications between two non-US persons, > > >> and in particular, the government can intercept such communications > > >> without > > >> even having to demonstrate probable cause to a judge. Specifically, > > >> non-US > > >> persons have a real reason to fear FISA Amendments Act of 2008 section > > >> 702 > > >> > > >> Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 ("FAA"), codified as 50 > > >> U.S.C. 1181a, which allows the Attorney General and the Director of > > >> National Intelligence ("DNI") to authorize jointly the targeting of > > >> non-United States persons for the purposes of gathering intelligence for > > >> a > > >> period of up to one year. 50 U.S.C. 1881a(1). Section 702 contains > > >> restrictions, including the requirement that the surveillance "may not > > >> intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to be > > >> located in the United States." 50 U.S.C. § 1881a(b)(1). The Attorney > > >> General and DNI must submit to the FISC an application for an order > > >> ("mass > > >> acquisition order") for the surveillance either before their joint > > >> authorization or within seven days thereof. The FAA sets out a procedure > > >> by > > >> which the Attorney General and DNI must obtain certification from FISC > > >> for > > >> their program, which includes an assurance that the surveillance is > > >> designed to limit surveillance to persons located outside of the United > > >> States. However, the FAA does not require the government to identify > > >> targets of surveillance, and the FISC does not consider individualized > > >> probable cause determinations or supervise the program. > > >> (from: http://epic.org/amicus/fisa/clapper/) > > >> > > >> > > >> While I am happy to provide feedback, I'm in no way authorized to sign > > >> on to this letter on behalf of the ACLU. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, > > >>> > > >>> I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to > > >>> Skype and present your name or the name of your organization as > > >>> signatories: > > >>> > > >>> http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/ > > >>> > > >>> The letter will be released soon. Feedback is also welcome. > > >>> > > >>> Thank you, > > >>> NK > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > > >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > > >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Grégoire Pouget, > > > New Media Desk // Bureau Nouveaux Médias > > > Reporters Without Borders // Reporters sans frontières > > > @fightcensors_en @fightcensors_fr > > > GPG ID : 2BBC1ECE > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > -- > Petter Ericson ([email protected]) > Telecomix Sleeper Jellyfish > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Douglas Schuler [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Public Sphere Project http://www.publicsphereproject.org/ Liberating Voices! 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