Hello Nadim, Can you add me as an individual, please. Thanks for the great work. Ophelia Noor
On 21 January 2013 22:31, Nadim Kobeissi <[email protected]> wrote: > Everyone has been added, thank you! > > > NK > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Fran Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can you add Fran Parker as an individual please. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Nadim Kobeissi wrote: >> >>> Added. Thank you! >>> >>> >>> NK >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Martin Johnson<greatfire@greatfire.** >>> org <[email protected]>>wrote: >>> >>> GreatFire.org would like to sign. Thanks very much for doing this. >>>> >>>> Martin Johnson >>>> Founder >>>> https://GreatFire.org - Monitoring Online Censorship In China. >>>> https://FreeWeibo.com - Uncensored, Anonymous Sina Weibo Search. >>>> https://Unblock.cn.com - We Can Unblock Your Website In China. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Nadim Kobeissi<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Amazing :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your support, everyone! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> NK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Petter Ericson<[email protected]>** >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> Good work :) >>>>>> >>>>>> First: some nitpicking: third-parties in the second paragraph should >>>>>> probably lose the hyphen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Second: I would be very happy to see a Telecomix signature on this >>>>>> letter :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> >>>>>> /P >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 January, 2013 - Nadim Kobeissi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay everyone, >>>>>>> the *final draft* has been posted online, with the gracious >>>>>>> >>>>>> collaboration >>>>>> >>>>>>> of the EFF. Please take a look at it, make sure you want to keep your >>>>>>> signature there (or add it!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.skypeopenletter.**com/draft/<http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We'll be publishing next week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Grégoire Pouget<[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We'd like to see the final / rewritten version of the letter first >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> but Reporters >>>>>> >>>>>>> Without Borders<http://rsf.org> would be happy to sign it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/01/2013 08:01, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your expert advice, Chris. We're currently in the process >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>>>> reworking the letter with assistance from the EFF and we'll take >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> what you >>>>>> >>>>>>> said into consideration. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Christopher Soghoian< >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You may want to consider rewriting your law enforcement/government >>>>>>>>> surveillance section: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a result of the service being acquired by Microsoft in 2011, it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> may >>>>>> >>>>>>> now be required to comply with CALEA due to the company being >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> headquartered >>>>>> >>>>>>> in Redmond, Washington. Furthermore, as a US-based communication >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> provider, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype would therefore be required to comply with the secretive >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> practice of >>>>>> >>>>>>> National Security Letters. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You don't articulate why being subject to CALEA is bad. Are the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> people >>>>>> >>>>>>> signing the letter arguing that law enforcement should never have >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> access to >>>>>> >>>>>>> real-time intercepts of skype voice/video communications? If so, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> say that, >>>>>> >>>>>>> and why. If not, CALEA merely mandates access capabilities, it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> >>>>>>> specify under what situations the government can perform an >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> interception, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, if you want to raise the issue of secretive surveillance >>>>>>>>> practices, NSLs wouldn't be at the top of my list (yes, they don't >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> require >>>>>> >>>>>>> a judge, but they can at best be used to obtain communications >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> metadata). I >>>>>> >>>>>>> would instead focus your criticism of the fact that US surveillance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> law >>>>>> >>>>>>> does not sufficiently protect communications between two non-US >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> persons, >>>>>> >>>>>>> and in particular, the government can intercept such communications >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> without >>>>>> >>>>>>> even having to demonstrate probable cause to a judge. Specifically, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> non-US >>>>>> >>>>>>> persons have a real reason to fear FISA Amendments Act of 2008 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> section 702 >>>>>> >>>>>>> Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 ("FAA"), codified >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as 50 >>>>>> >>>>>>> U.S.C. 1181a, which allows the Attorney General and the Director of >>>>>>>>> National Intelligence ("DNI") to authorize jointly the targeting of >>>>>>>>> non-United States persons for the purposes of gathering >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> intelligence for a >>>>>> >>>>>>> period of up to one year. 50 U.S.C. 1881a(1). Section 702 contains >>>>>>>>> restrictions, including the requirement that the surveillance "may >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>>>> intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>>> located in the United States." 50 U.S.C. § 1881a(b)(1). The Attorney >>>>>>>>> General and DNI must submit to the FISC an application for an order >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ("mass >>>>>> >>>>>>> acquisition order") for the surveillance either before their joint >>>>>>>>> authorization or within seven days thereof. The FAA sets out a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> procedure by >>>>>> >>>>>>> which the Attorney General and DNI must obtain certification from >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FISC for >>>>>> >>>>>>> their program, which includes an assurance that the surveillance is >>>>>>>>> designed to limit surveillance to persons located outside of the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> United >>>>>> >>>>>>> States. However, the FAA does not require the government to identify >>>>>>>>> targets of surveillance, and the FISC does not consider >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> individualized >>>>>> >>>>>>> probable cause determinations or supervise the program. >>>>>>>>> (from: >>>>>>>>> http://epic.org/amicus/fisa/**clapper/<http://epic.org/amicus/fisa/clapper/> >>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> While I am happy to provide feedback, I'm in no way authorized to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sign >>>>>> >>>>>>> on to this letter on behalf of the ACLU. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> Skype and present your name or the name of your organization as >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> signatories: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.skypeopenletter.**com/draft/<http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The letter will be released soon. Feedback is also welcome. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>> NK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Grégoire Pouget, >>>>>>>> New Media Desk // Bureau Nouveaux Médias >>>>>>>> Reporters Without Borders // Reporters sans frontières >>>>>>>> @fightcensors_en @fightcensors_fr >>>>>>>> GPG ID : 2BBC1ECE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Petter Ericson ([email protected]) >>>>>> Telecomix Sleeper Jellyfish >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >>> >> -- >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtech<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> >> > > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > -- *Ophelia Noor <http://about.me/ophelia.noor>* Photojournaliste & Editeur +33.6.16.29.42.40 Carte de Presse nº116614 *Co-auteur de Hackers, bâtisseurs depuis 1959<http://www.amazon.fr/Hackers-B%C3%A2tisseurs-depuis-1959-ebook/dp/B009NF67BE/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1350029082&sr=1-1> * *Webdocumentaire: Hackers in arab cities.<https://leshackersdanslacitearabe.wordpress.com/about/> * *ex-Owni.fr canal cyberhistorique circa 2012 *
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