Everyone has been added, thank you!
NK On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Fran Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you add Fran Parker as an individual please. > > Thanks. > > > Nadim Kobeissi wrote: > >> Added. Thank you! >> >> >> NK >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Martin Johnson<greatfire@greatfire.** >> org <[email protected]>>wrote: >> >> GreatFire.org would like to sign. Thanks very much for doing this. >>> >>> Martin Johnson >>> Founder >>> https://GreatFire.org - Monitoring Online Censorship In China. >>> https://FreeWeibo.com - Uncensored, Anonymous Sina Weibo Search. >>> https://Unblock.cn.com - We Can Unblock Your Website In China. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Nadim Kobeissi<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Amazing :) >>>> >>>> Thanks for your support, everyone! >>>> >>>> >>>> NK >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Petter Ericson<[email protected]>** >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Good work :) >>>>> >>>>> First: some nitpicking: third-parties in the second paragraph should >>>>> probably lose the hyphen. >>>>> >>>>> Second: I would be very happy to see a Telecomix signature on this >>>>> letter :) >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> /P >>>>> >>>>> On 18 January, 2013 - Nadim Kobeissi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Okay everyone, >>>>>> the *final draft* has been posted online, with the gracious >>>>>> >>>>> collaboration >>>>> >>>>>> of the EFF. Please take a look at it, make sure you want to keep your >>>>>> signature there (or add it!) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.skypeopenletter.**com/draft/<http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/> >>>>>> >>>>>> We'll be publishing next week. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> NK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Grégoire Pouget<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We'd like to see the final / rewritten version of the letter first >>>>>>> >>>>>> but Reporters >>>>> >>>>>> Without Borders<http://rsf.org> would be happy to sign it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/01/2013 08:01, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your expert advice, Chris. We're currently in the process >>>>>>> >>>>>> of >>>>> >>>>>> reworking the letter with assistance from the EFF and we'll take >>>>>>> >>>>>> what you >>>>> >>>>>> said into consideration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Christopher Soghoian< >>>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You may want to consider rewriting your law enforcement/government >>>>>>>> surveillance section: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a result of the service being acquired by Microsoft in 2011, it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> may >>>>> >>>>>> now be required to comply with CALEA due to the company being >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> headquartered >>>>> >>>>>> in Redmond, Washington. Furthermore, as a US-based communication >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> provider, >>>>> >>>>>> Skype would therefore be required to comply with the secretive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> practice of >>>>> >>>>>> National Security Letters. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You don't articulate why being subject to CALEA is bad. Are the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> people >>>>> >>>>>> signing the letter arguing that law enforcement should never have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> access to >>>>> >>>>>> real-time intercepts of skype voice/video communications? If so, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> say that, >>>>> >>>>>> and why. If not, CALEA merely mandates access capabilities, it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>> >>>>>> specify under what situations the government can perform an >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> interception, >>>>> >>>>>> Also, if you want to raise the issue of secretive surveillance >>>>>>>> practices, NSLs wouldn't be at the top of my list (yes, they don't >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> require >>>>> >>>>>> a judge, but they can at best be used to obtain communications >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> metadata). I >>>>> >>>>>> would instead focus your criticism of the fact that US surveillance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> law >>>>> >>>>>> does not sufficiently protect communications between two non-US >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> persons, >>>>> >>>>>> and in particular, the government can intercept such communications >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> without >>>>> >>>>>> even having to demonstrate probable cause to a judge. Specifically, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> non-US >>>>> >>>>>> persons have a real reason to fear FISA Amendments Act of 2008 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> section 702 >>>>> >>>>>> Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 ("FAA"), codified >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> as 50 >>>>> >>>>>> U.S.C. 1181a, which allows the Attorney General and the Director of >>>>>>>> National Intelligence ("DNI") to authorize jointly the targeting of >>>>>>>> non-United States persons for the purposes of gathering >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> intelligence for a >>>>> >>>>>> period of up to one year. 50 U.S.C. 1881a(1). Section 702 contains >>>>>>>> restrictions, including the requirement that the surveillance "may >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> not >>>>> >>>>>> intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> be >>>>> >>>>>> located in the United States." 50 U.S.C. § 1881a(b)(1). The Attorney >>>>>>>> General and DNI must submit to the FISC an application for an order >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ("mass >>>>> >>>>>> acquisition order") for the surveillance either before their joint >>>>>>>> authorization or within seven days thereof. The FAA sets out a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> procedure by >>>>> >>>>>> which the Attorney General and DNI must obtain certification from >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> FISC for >>>>> >>>>>> their program, which includes an assurance that the surveillance is >>>>>>>> designed to limit surveillance to persons located outside of the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> United >>>>> >>>>>> States. However, the FAA does not require the government to identify >>>>>>>> targets of surveillance, and the FISC does not consider >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> individualized >>>>> >>>>>> probable cause determinations or supervise the program. >>>>>>>> (from: >>>>>>>> http://epic.org/amicus/fisa/**clapper/<http://epic.org/amicus/fisa/clapper/> >>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While I am happy to provide feedback, I'm in no way authorized to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sign >>>>> >>>>>> on to this letter on behalf of the ACLU. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> Skype and present your name or the name of your organization as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> signatories: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.skypeopenletter.**com/draft/<http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The letter will be released soon. 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