-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.28 13.14, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Just curious, Eleanor-- once you implement your "bullet-proof" > privacy- preserving network, how do you plan to make the user > experience at all tolerable without automated mirroring like what > this developer has written and tested?
That's going to depend on the system and the situation. With Briar, we do things that are fairly similar, but we also make a point of taking unlinkability seriously. Research code into social mirroring? Awesome. Protocol design intended for deployment that ignores unlinkability? Not awesome. More specifically, some of this is unrelated to Alireza's proposal -- I'm using it to illustrate the kinds of shifts that we need to undertake in our thinking here. It's not about *this* tool, it's about every tool we build. To that end, I suppose I do owe them a bit of an apology -- really, it's nothing personal about this tool (and certainly not anything about them, although I hope that's obvious). It's all of us and everything that needs to shift. Finally, I should note in passing, I'm not trying to make something "bullet-proof". I care about security outcomes, not security theories. What I want to see is our tools reaching the point where we're actually playing the game, because right now, we're not even on the road to the stadium. Encryption meaningfully prevented a wiretap for the first time ever in *2012* (or so we're told, for non-intelligence domestic US wiretaps), and has only ever worked five times. This is pathetic and terrifying. Let's become an actual problem. E. - -- Ideas are my favorite toys. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) iF4EAREIAAYFAlHObREACgkQQwkE2RkM0wrI1AD/aSD1R4PCjLVMxJGfY2s1CDLP 0EOaFBGkh3daJdsJ6moA/0DHZM5CoIwHpUN/3O6cx7HdKSmE6VcqxTsnI6+f9kt+ =v8og -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
