Dear Moderator, I would hope that you might address particular elements of my message and point out how they are Islamo-phobic for the benefit of myself and readers.
Phobia is an irational belief based on no evidence or reality. Please demonstrate how my message fits that bill. Also, my article which had several links substantiating points made arrived without those links intact. The actual article is here: http://www.vinnomot.com/Kisan/IslamistIdiot.htm with links intact. I don't appreciate being insinuated as a "hate monger" but would be perhaps willing to accept that label if you could demonstrate it with some logic rather than using your moderator status as a license to pass hasty judgements and labeling. Thanks, Kisan. --- In [email protected], Kisan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Modrator Insertion as a countr to this IslamoPhobic post- > > USA presence in the Persian Gulf helps extremists to recruit for the holy war: > > Muslims see this as an invasion and domination by a foreign enemy which inspires radicalism. This is not new. This war, from their viewpoint, has been going on since the Crusades 1000 year ago. We ignore this history at our own peril. > > The radicals react as some Americans might react if China dominated the Gulf of Mexico and had air bases in Texas and Florida. Dominating the Persian Gulf is not a benign activity. It has consequences. The attack on the USS Cole was a warning we ignored. > > Furthermore, our support for secular governments in the moderate Arab countries is interpreted by the radicals as more American control over their region than they want. There is no doubt that our policies that are seen by the radicals as favoring one faction over another in the long lasting Middle East conflict add to the distrust and hatred of America. > > The hatred has been suppressed because we are a powerful economic and military force and wield a lot of influence. But this suppressed hatred is now becoming more visible and we as Americans for the most part are not even aware of how this could be. Americans have no animosity toward a people they hardly even know. Instead, our policies have been driven by the commercial interests of a few. And now the innocent suffer. > > Said US Rep Ron Paul (R) in Congress Sept 25, 2001 > > at http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr092501.htm > > > Cato Foreign Policy Briefing No. 50 > Does U.S. Intervention Overseas Breed Terrorism? > The Historical Record by Ivan Eland, > then director of defense policy studies at the Cato Institute > at http://www.cato.org/pubs/fpbriefs/fpb-050es.html > > > Apparently the 'useful idiocy' of hate mongering is everwhere :( > > -EndModeratorInsertion > > > http://www.vinnomot.com/Kisan/IslamistIdiot.htm > > The Islamists' Useful Idiots > > By B Kisan > > 20/07/05 > > Recently 4 devout Muslims blew themselves up and dozens of Londoners on the way to work in central London. This was but a few of the hundreds of `martyrdom' operations carried out by the faithful over the year of 2005. Like many of these operations this one specifically targeted ordinary civilians in Western terminology, however as an Islamic scholar justifying the bombings explained in Islamic religious law this term doesn't exist, people are either dar ul harb (zone of war as opposed to zone of Islam) or not. > > Following this targeting and bombing of London commuters the trendy leftist newspaper the Guardian carried prominently a Tariq Ali editorial that whilst omitting to critique the bombings for targeting civilians in London did raise countless civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq and culminate in suggesting getting out of these places and Palestine as being the solution. > > Naturally enough the Jihadi elements of Islam love this type of analysis and promptly this article was put up on Islamic website jihadunspun.com along with a Fisk article of similar propaganda utility from the Guardians sister publication The Independent. There both articles remain along with one more on that day from Yamin Zakaria, a Hizb ut tahrir hardcore jihadi propagandist based out of London. > > A few days later the Guardian ran a sassy article giving the radical Islamist perspective from Dilpazier Aslam a trainee journalist who is also a hardcore Hizb ut tahrir propagandist as discovered by an intrepid blogger who expanded on these links which have picked up by several media outlets since. > > The guys who wish to bring back the Caliphate and end democracy on the way to Islam dominating the world have not only mastered the art of using the useful idiots on the far left but have incorporated much of their technique, rhetoric, terminology and arguments from this left who largely in tactical alliance with them. They are also well represented by the Guardian Faisal Bodi is another radical Islamist Guardian opinion writer who in the Guardian article linked to his name agitates for some Hizb activists arrested in Egypt, one of many articles from this author printed by the Guardian. > > Despite a Guardian journalist dying in the London commuter bombings the Guardian publishes propaganda for the bombers by their sympathizers and cheerleaders for the Hizb ut tahrir. Highly useful. > > Where the Islamists succeed in gaining power we can be sure that these useful idiots will be among the first to have their throats cut as happened after Khomeini captured power in Iran with the help of socialists and communists. They weren't useful any more. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages > Only in Yahoo! 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