--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I did no such thing. You said it was a given that anti Zionist = anti Jewish. I have never agreed to your baseless claim of equating equivalence between words with different spellings. Quit trying to put words into peoples mouths that they did not say. That is a form of dishonesty that in another time would have gotten you challenged to a duel for your actions. Its that serious. Just so you know, My wife is of European jewish heritage from both branches of her family. But none of the family on either side agrees with the militant aims of Zionism. Since the basic middle of the road aims of Zionism have been realised by the creation of a State of Israel, (exception being the Ten thousand or more that demonstrate every year in NYC that say there should NOT be an Israel until the return of their Messiah) I see the need for Zionism is not there. (the symbolic serpent should have swallowed it's tail and disappeared since there is a State of Israel). Until you can show me a document signed by every living person of Jewish heritage that agrees Zionism = Judaism I will consider your words to be somewhere between substancially lacking in discernment or outright lying for some unspecified future gain. The penalty of such is that I will no longer correspond with you and encourage others to consider doing the same, until you apollogise, or at least change your ways by example of consistant libertarian living. There is really no need for a Zionist movement any more than there is a need for racial purity in Germany. The only real need for a zionist movement today is if those extreemist leaders wanted to destroy their neighbors (or trick the U.S. people into doing so) in order to steal everything from the Euphrates river to the Med. -to have a "Greater Israel" An idea that no Libertarian would go for, based on the deception and fraud that would be involved. Perhaps that is why my wife's family are here in the U.S. and not living in a war zone that is captive to extremists on both sides, backed by the Military Industrial complexes of the world. "too dim to notice" No. I noticed. It's just that I come to a list to exchange ideas and learn and share, not to debase my soul by insulting others with childish insults. I see you still have not supplied any specific proofs of Alex Jones spouting anything Anti Jewish. So, are you jealous! Reduced to attacking the messenger! How Base is that? Have a wonderfull day! Julius (This was answered hours ago but did not make it to the list for one reason or another, so I resent it) > You yourself mentioned his constant anti-zionist rants. Anti-Zionism > = Anti-Jew = Racism. I mentioned it earlier, but perhaps you were too > dim to notice. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Julius No" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So, you avoided answering your claim Alex is a Racist or is anti > Jewish. > > > > I see. You do what you claim alex is doing. > > > > I see very well. > > > > > > -- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > No, it's not censorship. It's deciding what will or won't be > > > available on thier own property. The stupid people who wish to visit > > > these horribly offensive websites, can seek internet access elsewhere. > > > > > > For the record.... anti-zionist = anti-jewish. Are there a random > > > few self-hating Jews in a tiny minority who oppose zionism? Sure, but > > > you can find people like this in any group. There are people in the > > > Libertarian Party who oppose libertarianism. People like Bruce Cohen, > > > Art Tuma, Brian Holtz, Aaron Star, etc. These sorts don't matter. > > > > > > His websites have nothing remotely resembling the truth. They are > > > filled with hate, stupidity, lies, hypocricy, and baseless conspiracy > > > theories. The American Free Press is run by former members of the > > > American Nazi party, bikers, etc. > > > > > > They are all worthless and so are those who consider anything from > > > them to be anything other than pure trash. > > > > > > If the government said you couldn't visit those websites, I'd be > > > fighting along side you. You have every right to be stupid. But > > > since it's a private company preventing offensive materials from being > > > available on their own network, all libertarians should support their > > > right to do it. You don't have a RIGHT to visit these websites on > > > THEIR network. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Julius No" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm very happy about this. > > > > > > > > > > Every one of those websites are bullshit propaganda machines > > spreading > > > > > outright lies, conspiracy theories, and anti-Jewish racism. > > > > > > > > You care to offer proof of Alex Jones anti-Jewish racism? > > > > > > > > I would agree Jones is anti-Tyranny, he is a bit loose with facts at > > > > times and is his own worst enemy as a result. That said, He does > stick > > > > it to statists af all flavors, be they Neocons, Zionists, and > Statist > > > > Demopublicans of all stripes. > > > > > > > > Have you listened to him at all this last year? His interview of > Paul > > > > Craig Roberts and many other middle of the road public servants this > > > > year make him sound more like Dan Rather, Mumbles, or Ted Koppel. > > > > > > > > I suspect the attack dogs at the State Dept. have been pressuring > > > > corporate media to squelch Jones because Alex is learning how to > > > > mellow, and work with more mainstream people. He is growing his > > > > listener base every month. > > > > > > > > Paul, You sound Jealous to me. > > > > > > > > > As far as this censoring free speech.. > > > > > > > > > > Time Warner owns the switches, wires, and other infrastructure on > > > > > their own network. If they want to block access to certain > websites > > > > > through THEIR network, it's not a violation of free speech. > People > > > > > who are stupid enough to want to visit those sites can find > > > another ISP. > > > > > > > > If I had an ISP who blocked any content out on the www, I would dump > > > > them in a New York minute. > > > > > > > > Content blocking sure as hell is censorship. When a business offers > > > > access to the www, you are not told it is subject to control by some > > > > hairbrained Neoconnazi at the State Dept. > > > > > > > > You want censorship Paul? Why don't you pitch your tent with the > > > > mullahs in Egypt, or Singapore? > > > > > > > > Is that the kind of happy you want for all americans? > > > > > > > > Freedom is messy. Live it. Deal with it. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. 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