Capitalism has nothing to do with dishonesty. Those who commit fraud, theft, trespass, etc. are criminals, and this is unrelated to capitalism. Criminals are criminals and they'd exist in any system. Though in a socialist nation, they'd be in charge.
When I said "no harm" I ment NO harm. Nobody in the history of the planet earth has or ever will be harmed by capitalism in even the slightest way. As far as competition goes, if you can't compete, you don't belong in the market. Competition breeds excellence. It gives us better and safer products or services with more features at lower prices. It stimulates innovation, productivity, resourcefulness, and creativity. Competition in the market does not mean murder in the streets unless you create black markets by using government intervention to make some things illegal. Competition in the marketplace means you learn how to adapt or you go out of business. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, and if you go out of business, you aren't the "victim" of anyone but your own inability to work smarter, harder, and better than the next guy. --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you feel that 'no harm' is relative, than you cannot have a libertarian society. > "NO harm" is not and cannot be relative. There should be certain rules which exclude dishonesty. > Otherwise, what else do you propose? Capitalism which nice, unfortunately always leads to wars over the markets, or competition will force you OUT. > I do not think that a society where people must fight with each or be annihilated, can lead to anything good. > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Deus Ex Machina > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The answer is simple: libertarianism which advocates for self governing within just one law of "no harm" . > > You do not need other laws, but this one. All decision would be founded on this law. So, if you want to open factory, you need to answer this question first: is product and the working conditions in any way harmful to others. The system you will be creating by making such informed decisions would naturally be altruistic. > > There would be then no need for the government. > > this sounds like new age waffle to me. you, know the old do unto others > as you want them to do unto you. unfortunately some people are so far > out there that the last thing I want is to be treated the way they want > to be treated. I want to be treated the way I want to be treated. > > the coralary is that what one person might see as harm is anothers dream, > so your law of no harm collapes on the shores of reality. if we applied > the law of no harmful products we would still be in the stone age. you > could claim cars, planes are harmful and should not be made, which quite > simple collapses the economy back to feudalism. > > everything has at least some harm from some point of view. > > Vic > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
