I see a problem here. I have never met a person who would feel that his efforts would be worth less than mine. So, who decides about fair values? Anna
----- Original Message ----- From: Terry L Parker To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... Anna, the LIBERTARIAN answer is always 'consensually' That answer bans fraud and credible threats of physical aggression from all transactions. Thus human dignity is restored by letting each person set values for themselves. If you value your $10 less than I value an hour of my labor, we have the basis for voluntary MUTUAL 'exploitation' that is of happy benefit to us both :) -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good question, what is an exploitation then? > I would say robbing others of their honest pay for an honest effort, or duping less privileged into accepting a deal which will rob him of what is owned them fair and square. But, what is fair and square? > Example: two men seek work. They decide to form a contractor team. One seeks the contracts, the other does the physical job. > The guy who seeks contracts charges 50 dollars per foot of a finished home. But since the ongoing rate for a physical work is 10 dollars , this is how much he will pay his partner/worker himself taking the rest. > How do you think the money should be divided? > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M.A. Johnson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Anna > Financial competition fosters greed and > exploitation. Show me one example where > it does not. > MJ > What is 'greed'? > In a mutual contract, who is 'exploited'? > > Anna > Capitalism on the other hand thrives on these traits. But > it does not mean that the results can be positive. Financial > competition without a sense of inner justice must always > end in violence. To remedy, you need the laws. But... when > you introduce too many laws, it no longer is libertarian, is it? > > MJ > When you introduce laws (Government intervention), it is > no longer Capitalism, but instead another variant of > Socialism. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > There is simply no other choice than this: either > abstain from interference in the free play of the > market, or to delegate the entire management of > production and distribution to the government. > Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no > middle way. -- Ludwig von Mises > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
