Anna, look again please at the example. It was not a comparison of one person's efforts vs another's
It was a comparison of SUBJECTIVE valuation by one person of an hour of their labor vs the SUBJECTIVE valuation by another person of their $10. If you value your $10 as being worth LESS TO YOU than an hour of my labor AND I value my labor as being worth LESS to me than your $10, THEN we have the makings of a MUTUALLY beneficial 'exploitation' We each voluntarily enter into an exchange of my labor for your $10. In this process, We both got 'wealthier' each in our own terms :) -Terry Liberty Parker PleaseSee: Your Freedom and the Rights of Others at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990 --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see a problem here. I have never met a person who would feel that his efforts would be worth less than mine. > So, who decides about fair values? > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry L Parker > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:07 AM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > Anna, the LIBERTARIAN answer is always 'consensually' > > That answer bans fraud and credible threats of physical > aggression from all transactions. Thus human dignity is > restored by letting each person set values for themselves. > > If you value your $10 less than I value an hour of my labor, > we have the basis for voluntary MUTUAL 'exploitation' that > is of happy benefit to us both :) > > -Terry Liberty Parker > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Good question, what is an exploitation then? > > I would say robbing others of their honest pay for an honest > effort, or duping less privileged into accepting a deal which will > rob him of what is owned them fair and square. But, what is fair and > square? > > Example: two men seek work. They decide to form a contractor team. > One seeks the contracts, the other does the physical job. > > The guy who seeks contracts charges 50 dollars per foot of a > finished home. But since the ongoing rate for a physical work is 10 > dollars , this is how much he will pay his partner/worker himself > taking the rest. > > How do you think the money should be divided? > > Anna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: M.A. Johnson > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Anna > > Financial competition fosters greed and > > exploitation. Show me one example where > > it does not. > > MJ > > What is 'greed'? > > In a mutual contract, who is 'exploited'? > > > > Anna > > Capitalism on the other hand thrives on these traits. But > > it does not mean that the results can be positive. Financial > > competition without a sense of inner justice must always > > end in violence. To remedy, you need the laws. 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