I wish you lived in my district Ed.
--- In [email protected], "Edward J. Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul, you have a way with words and of cutting right to the truth. The > posts that we respond to, as we beat our heads against the figurative > walls, shows just how indoctrinated, unaware, and clouded so many > people are. Years of government schooling are being manifested in the > ideas that government exists to somehow create a level playing field. > Excellence, intelligence, initiative, and creativity are values no > longer venerated by a large percentage of people. Competition fosters > excellence, people have choices of products and services only dreamed > about by earlier generations - and most would have us believe that it > is a gift of the government, or a 'level' playing field. Sheesh! > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Capitalism has nothing to do with dishonesty. Those who commit fraud, > > theft, trespass, etc. are criminals, and this is unrelated to > > capitalism. Criminals are criminals and they'd exist in any system. > > Though in a socialist nation, they'd be in charge. > > > > When I said "no harm" I ment NO harm. Nobody in the history of the > > planet earth has or ever will be harmed by capitalism in even the > > slightest way. > > > > As far as competition goes, if you can't compete, you don't belong in > > the market. Competition breeds excellence. It gives us better and > > safer products or services with more features at lower prices. It > > stimulates innovation, productivity, resourcefulness, and creativity. > > > > Competition in the market does not mean murder in the streets unless > > you create black markets by using government intervention to make some > > things illegal. Competition in the marketplace means you learn how to > > adapt or you go out of business. There's certainly nothing wrong with > > that, and if you go out of business, you aren't the "victim" of anyone > > but your own inability to work smarter, harder, and better than the > > next guy. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you feel that 'no harm' is relative, than you cannot have a > > libertarian society. > > > "NO harm" is not and cannot be relative. There should be certain > > rules which exclude dishonesty. > > > Otherwise, what else do you propose? Capitalism which nice, > > unfortunately always leads to wars over the markets, or competition > > will force you OUT. > > > I do not think that a society where people must fight with each or > > be annihilated, can lead to anything good. > > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Deus Ex Machina > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:49 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The answer is simple: libertarianism which advocates for self > > governing within just one law of "no harm" . > > > > You do not need other laws, but this one. All decision would be > > founded on this law. So, if you want to open factory, you need to > > answer this question first: is product and the working conditions in > > any way harmful to others. The system you will be creating by making > > such informed decisions would naturally be altruistic. > > > > There would be then no need for the government. > > > > > > this sounds like new age waffle to me. you, know the old do unto > > others > > > as you want them to do unto you. unfortunately some people are > so far > > > out there that the last thing I want is to be treated the way they > > want > > > to be treated. I want to be treated the way I want to be treated. > > > > > > the coralary is that what one person might see as harm is anothers > > dream, > > > so your law of no harm collapes on the shores of reality. if we > > applied > > > the law of no harmful products we would still be in the stone > age. you > > > could claim cars, planes are harmful and should not be made, which > > quite > > > simple collapses the economy back to feudalism. > > > > > > everything has at least some harm from some point of view. > > > > > > Vic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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