TAUBMAN: Sergei and his sisters and other members of his family were absolutely central to this. I couldn`t have done it without them. Sergei, for example, invited me to go with him down to Khrushchev`s birthplace, this little village in southern Russia in `91, and then over to the city of Danetsk in eastern Ukraine, where Khrushchev grew to manhood, and then to Kiev, where Khrushchev ruled as Stalin`s viceroy. And he introduced me to other relatives and other people, and he -- he just corrected my errors. He challenged my interpretations. And the most important thing he did was at the very end, he let me get away with my interpretations, even though he didn`t necessarily agree with them.
----- Original Message ----- From: hrearden_hr To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... A couple years ago I was watching CSPAN and on CSPAN's Booknotes program there was an interview with a man who wrote a book about Kruschev. During the interview the subject of how Kruschev treated artists came up. Below is a link to the webpage of the transscript of that interview. The part about art and artists is a little more than half way down the page. http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1724 $ --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you know this? Were you ever an artist living in communistic Russia? > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: hrearden_hr > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:31 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > Under Soviet communism art was only what the state said was art. > Artist in the USSR were only artist if the state said they were > artists. Communism kills art. Art would thrive in a capitalist > system. Art is what the individual says it is, not what the state > says it is. > > $ > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Under communism, art flourished. For example, neither Bolshoi > Ballet nor Kirow could ever achieve the artistic excellence they had > when they were not "free". What killed art, was capitalism, or > rather a change of goals, from a spiritual/artistic, to PROFITS > FIRST. > > Do you think USA has culture? > > Please note, that culture is a foundation of every enlightened > society. > > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mark robert > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:42 AM > > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > A gold-based economy is yet another topic. For purposes of this > > discussion, money is a scorecard for the amount of goods/services > > produced. In that sense, capitalism "values" art; artists are > > some of the richest people. Are you also trying to say that this > > system doesn't value the spiritual? Wrong again. Capitalism > > values anything that people value - the more free the market, the > > less the difference. If you disagree, please point to > > non-capitalist places that have bigger churches or more people > > with more time and money to pursue all sorts of traditional and > > non-traditional "spiritual" goals. > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > This would be only correct if money was backed by the real goods. > > > > Otherwise money is as good as the paper it is written one. > > This is actually the situation that USA is now in. > > > > What about other values? A good model must also acknowledge > > spiritual needs. > > Where does an artist fit in your society? > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government > strategy > > Libertarian party E government procurement > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ----------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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