kitsch art
artistic Suggest entering each of these terms at http://www.OneLook.com http://www.Google.com communication works better when terms are mutually understood -Terry Liberty Parker --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are entitled to your opinions. > Liberty of a body must start as a liberty of a mind to think what it wants to think and without being brainwashed. > Nevertheless, I would like to remind you that there is a difference between a kitsch and art, even if to some people it is all the same. . > > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:39 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > No art created in Russia is superior to the art created in America. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Terry, true art is never determined by anyone but one's honest > endeavors. Regardless of the system an artist lives in. > > Russian art was superior not because the themes were or were not > determined, but because it promoted beauty and spirituality. > > In fact, most literature published in Russia was profitless. > Government paid to publish and also paid the artist fully knowing it > will bring little in return. > > Art was promoted at every level, from factories where the free > opera tickets were passed to the workers, to public museums, > performances and galleries. All financed by the government. There > were even special homes for artists where they could write or compose > away from family stress. > > At the same time, Russian education was also free and one of the > best in the world. > > > > Artists have to be protected in every system, because is important > for social health. > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Terry L Parker > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:00 PM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > Anna, would art be better if determined by art bureaucrats, > > mercantilist robber barons or free spirited individuals > > whose personal autonomy is secure? > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > See what I wrote in > > Envision UNIVERSAL Libertarianism! > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/42500 > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > How do you know this? Were you ever an artist living in communistic > > Russia? > > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: hrearden_hr > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:31 PM > > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under Soviet communism art was only what the state said was art. > > > Artist in the USSR were only artist if the state said they were > > > artists. Communism kills art. Art would thrive in a capitalist > > > system. Art is what the individual says it is, not what the state > > > says it is. > > > > > > $ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Under communism, art flourished. For example, neither Bolshoi > > > Ballet nor Kirow could ever achieve the artistic excellence they > > had > > > when they were not "free". What killed art, was capitalism, or > > > rather a change of goals, from a spiritual/artistic, to PROFITS > > > FIRST. > > > > Do you think USA has culture? > > > > Please note, that culture is a foundation of every enlightened > > > society. > > > > Anna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: mark robert > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:42 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A gold-based economy is yet another topic. For purposes of > > this > > > > discussion, money is a scorecard for the amount of > > goods/services > > > > produced. In that sense, capitalism "values" art; artists are > > > > some of the richest people. Are you also trying to say that > > this > > > > system doesn't value the spiritual? Wrong again. Capitalism > > > > values anything that people value - the more free the market, > > the > > > > less the difference. If you disagree, please point to > > > > non-capitalist places that have bigger churches or more people > > > > with more time and money to pursue all sorts of traditional > > and > > > > non-traditional "spiritual" goals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > This would be only correct if money was backed by the real > > goods. > > > > > > > > Otherwise money is as good as the paper it is written one. > > > > This is actually the situation that USA is now in. > > > > > > > > What about other values? A good model must also acknowledge > > > > spiritual needs. > > > > Where does an artist fit in your society? > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government > > > strategy > > > > Libertarian party E government procurement > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > --- > > > ----------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. > > > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! 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