Yeah... while we,  the rich folk, will eat the cake  and keep it too <;-
Anna
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Terry L Parker 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:41 PM
  Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....


  Anna, you've never heard of 'fasting' for spirituality?  :)  

  -Terry Liberty Parker 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 


  --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Terry, it is hard to be spiritual when one is hungry. Most 
  spirirual people have money. 
  > Anna
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Terry L Parker 
  >   To: [email protected] 
  >   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:32 PM
  >   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
  > 
  > 
  >   For SURE, financially poorer, 
  > 
  >   BUT usually spiritually wealthier  :) 
  > 
  >   -Terry Liberty Parker 
  >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 
  > 
  > 
  >   --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >   >
  >   > Yes, but how do you prevent exploitation of the needy ones? One 
  >   person may have 10 kids to support, another 1.
  >   > When they apply for the job,  the pay offered may be  good 
  enough 
  >   for a single kid parent, but not the other parent.
  >   > Would you say then the choice of having so many kids means that 
  a 
  >   person chooses to be poorer?
  >   > Anna
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: Paul 
  >   >   To: [email protected] 
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:59 PM
  >   >   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   WE don't decide.  THEY do.  If they apply for a job and are 
  >   offered a
  >   >   job, they can negotiate with the business what their salary 
  is 
  >   worth
  >   >   based on their skills, education, and experience.  If the 
  business
  >   >   isn't offering what they want, they don't have to take it.  
  They 
  >   can
  >   >   apply somewhere else.  If they accept the offer, they are 
  agreeing
  >   >   that this is the value of their labor.
  >   > 
  >   >   The market and free will determine the value.
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >   >   >
  >   >   > Mark, some people may need a job, any job and this  gives a 
  >   chance
  >   >   for abuse by employers. 
  >   >   > So my question was, how we decide the values and worth? 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > Anna
  >   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   >   From: mark robert 
  >   >   >   To: [email protected] 
  >   >   >   Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:07 AM
  >   >   >   Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth....
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   Ana,
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   You need to go ask the two who are engaged in the business
  >   >   >   relationship. I assume you will be told "yes". Or save 
  >   yourself
  >   >   >   the effort and deduce your answer by observing their 
  actions -
  >   if
  >   >   >   it's not just, why would we be voluntarily doing it?
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   -Mark
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >     _____  
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   This  is the whole issue:
  >   >   >   Is the physical work worth more than  thinking or doing 
  deals?
  >   >   >   The   same? 
  >   >   >   You claim that the guy who does the thinking deserves to 
  get
  >   >   >   more.
  >   >   >   This means that the worker's effort in building the house 
  is
  >   >   >   worth less than the guy's who did not lift a finger doing 
  the
  >   >   >   construction job.
  >   >   >   Is it just?
  >   >   >   Anna 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
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