Mark, since 'person' is the term we use to reference entities 
capable of having rights and obligations, wouldn't that imply 
decision makers to whom responsibilty accrues?  

Suitabiltiy of a gun's calibre for a particular task can be 
assessed ('judged').  But, it still takes a 'person' to be 
responsible for deciding how the gun is to be used.  

While tools (the gun) are A-moral, each person IS a free moral agent. 


-Terry Liberty Parker 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 



--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Terry,
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> Are you saying that no inanimate objects should be judged
> according to their life-supporting or life degenerating
> properties, that only human behavior should be so judged?
> 
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> -Mark
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> Mark, of course I regard this discussion as 'good'  :)  
> 
> I said nothing about abandoning discretionary judgements as 
> to 'good' and 'bad'  In fact,  see what I wrote about this-   
> 
> 'MORALITY: Public, Private & Personal'   
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/42731  
> 
> 
> So TOOLS, like guns, hamers, capitalism, socialism, government, 
> physical force, even fraud and many other things are A-moral.  
> 
> It is the person who employs the tool that can do so for
> 'good/bad' 
> 
> For example, a gun can be used in justified defense OR to commit 
> unwarrented assault; but it's the person, NOT the gun, that is 
> accountable for the morality of their use of the tool.  Govt can 
> be used to defend OR violates the just rights of persons; but, 
> the 'morality' (good/bad) of that use is attributable to PERSONS.
> 
> 
> Capital (financial, political, human and so on) can be used 
> in beneficial enterprises OR to, for example, murder people!  
> 
> A person's morality (good/bad) is their responsibility; that 
> can NOT be exported to other things.   
> 
> Libertarian 'public morality' holds that it is 'bad' (immoral) 
> for a person to initiate physical force against the person or 
> justly held possessions of another person.  
> 
> It is not the force, per se that is immoral; it is choice by 
> that person (entity that can have rights/obligations)  
> 
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> -Terry Liberty Parker 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 
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