What do you mean "allow" them to reproduce?  It's not up to me.  It's
not up to you.  It's not up to anyone other than that person.  The
combined population of the planet earth minus that person has no
legitimate say in the matter.


--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <Not "born" equal. Created equal. >
> 
> In whose eyes? Yours, or a just born cripple?
> No, men are  neither born or created equal. One mother is a black
junky, and another is  a  white collage teacher. Whom would you rather
have for a mother? 
> BTW, would you permit a criminal person, carrying hereditary defects
and a junky to reproduce?
> Would you allow a severely defective baby to be born or permit 
abortion?
> Anna
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:50 PM
>   Subject: Re: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re:
Socialism/Capitalism of the Author
> 
> 
>   >
>   > Wrong.  My position is 100% consistent at all times.  An "unborn
>   > child" has no rights because there is no such thing as an unborn
>   > child.  Until the moment it leaves the body of the host, it is a
>   > biological parasite.  And as I said, nothing inside my body has any
>   > rights because I alone own my body and all of its contents.  I have
>   > sole dominion over my body and make all life and death decisions for
>   > the organisms within the body and even for my body.  Nobody else on
>   > earth has any claim to my body, including the organisms within my
>   > body.  The combined population of the planet earth minus me has no
>   > legitimate say what-so-ever in what I do or don't do with my body or
>   > the organisms within.
>   >
>   > ALL LIBERTARIANS....I repeat....ALL LIBERTARIANS believe in complete
>   > self-ownership of our body and everything inside of our body.
>   >
> 
> 
>   As the Dude on the Deuce postulated in 1776, all Men are created
equal and
>   are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.
> 
>   Not "born" equal. Created equal. The baby has a human mother and a
human
>   father and therefore is not likely a giraffe. The baby could die
in the
>   womb and therefore is alive, because one of the prerequisites for
dying is
>   that you must be alive to do it. The baby is a living human being. The
>   mother's Creator-given right to sole control of her body has been
>   pre-empted by her Creator for the time being by endowing the baby
with the
>   right of parasitic feeding, just as the kid's Creator-given right to
>   liberty is later restricted by the mother's Creator-given right to
>   restrain the kid in a stroller at the mall.
> 
>   Tell your kindergarten kid to invite a classmate to live with you,
and the
>   classmate accepts, and see how long it is before the government
dispatches
>   gun-toting goons in bulletproof vests to enforce the parents' right to
>   raise their kid. ("That to secure these Rights, Governments are
instituted
>   among Men...") You were violating the parents' Creator-given right to
>   raise their child. Likewise, the Creator-given right of the baby
to life
>   can be enforced by the State.
> 
>   Tom Alciere
>   smart person with correct opinions
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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