Anna, better than what; conscious volition?  

If by saying the word 'person' we are identifying an entity 
with the property of rights/duties capability, how can you 
leave out conscious volition and still have moral accountability

Do you not believe that it is required for free moral agency?  


-Terry Liberty Parker 
Please see what I wrote in 
'Your Freedom and the Rights of Others'
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990 



--- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Terry, a better defintion is that personality is an individual  map 
of consciousness. 
> Anna
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Terry L Parker 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:17 PM
>   Subject: [Libertarian] PERSONHOOD: Abortion & beyond
> 
> 
>   It's intellectually and  spiritually lazy 
>   to default to a comfortable prejudice 
>   shared by one's associates!   
> 
>   The term 'personhood' refers to the 'property' 
>   of being able to have rights & duties (obligations)
>   Human Beings are human lifeforms with 'personhood' 
>   for example.     
> 
>   Historically, we've been too quick to discount 
>   personhood when doing so was immoral; 
>   for example, slavery (person discounted to 
>   another person's property)  Determination 
>   of 'personhood' impacts not only the 
>   contemporary human abortion issue but also 
>   the morality of other life form encounters to come.  
> 
>   The intellectual & spiritual 'homework' 
>   yet to be done by many, is to develop 
>   a working criteria for who (or what) 
>   gets to be considered a person AND why. 
>   If you want that criteria to be 
>   generally acknowledged it has to be 
>   as rational and objective as possible.
> 
>   Here are *my* 'tentative' COMBINED criteria for 
>   who or what gets to be regarded as a person:
> 
>   sentience- ability to consider essential 
>   information about one's environment 
>   (surroundings, situation and so on)
> 
>   agency- power to act in that environment
> 
>   conscious volition- free will to intervene between 
>   stimulus and response by making meaningful choices; 
>   without which one can not be 'responsible' for 
>   one's actions that interface with other persons
> 
>   Imo, 'personhood' is about individual sovereigns 
>   (whose 'domains' are their own bodies and 
>   justly held possessions) being free moral agents; 
>   which still leaves room for acts of compassion   :)
> 
>   Domains http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419 
> 
>   Morals http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/37899
> 
> 
>   There are three essential areas of moral concern about human 
abortion:
> 
>   1. Personhood- At what point do rights and obligations accrue 
>   to the developing individual?
> 
>   The spectrum of opinion is from the moment of conception
>   (spiritual, before physical zygote) thru physical gestation 
>   to birth and a few years beyond (human infanticide is actually 
>   NOT regarded as murder in some societies)
> 
>   2. Obligation- If the developing individual is deemed a 'person'
>   what, if any, duty to that person exists, to provide support?
> 
>   No person has an 'automatic' claim on the resources of another 
>   person to provide them with support. But, did voluntary action 
>   by the 'host' person create an obligation to the 'dependent' 
person?
> 
>   3. Fatal Eviction- If the 'host' person has a right to deny 
>   support to the 'dependent' person, does the 'host' person's 
>   right to 'evict' the 'dependent' person include doing so in 
>   such a way that is fatal to said dependent?
> 
>   People of sincere conscience can be found on all sides of these 
>   three concerns.  
> 
> 
>   'The unexamined life is not worth living' 
>   Socrates, in Plato, Dialogues, Apology
>   Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)
>   at http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/24198.html   
> 
>   Please also enter the word consciousness at http://www.Google.com 
> 
> 
>   -Terry Liberty Parker
>   see: 'Your Freedom and the Rigths of Others'  
>   at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990
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