And what research have you done to support your claim? Anyway, it is highly unlikely that everyone would share similar hallucination. Nobody dreams the same dream. If you would study the NDE, you would know that majority of these people were PRONOUNCED DEAD, and their brains were FLAT. No beta waves. Not just dying as you clam, since this period still shows some EEG and ECG activity. DEAD, fully dead.
Here is the link: http://near-death.com/ Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the A Nobody is saying they are liars. They are having hallucinations. They genuinely believe they saw these things and these are the exact same things described by the pilots who went through the gravity tests. It's also not a superficial view, it's a scientific view backed by some of the most eminent doctors, and scientists in the country. The patients in question were not "dead", they were "dying" and their brain went through the same shutdown with hallucinations that we all get when we are dying, BUT NOT DEAD. When you die, it's the end. There is no more. Everything you do while you're alive is all that is done. You don't get any do overs. If you want to accomplish something, now is the time to do it. --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is very superficial view. If NDE would not exist, then why people are experiencing it? And seeing the same scenarios? > Are they all liars? Some of the people are the doctors themselves shocked by what happened to them. > Please, study it first before you make such opinion. > > What is important here is the testimony of the people who have experienced it and the doctors who can testify that during that time the patients were DEAD and somehow miraculously came back to life, some even with the restored health. Some of the people had a death certificate already issued, so how could they be dreaming then? > > A progressive society cannot be strictly materialistic. In fact, the human quest is not for money or comfort in life, but to know if there is any sense to life and if one survives death. Not knowing the answers, makes human life desperately senseless. Human behavior is often dictated by this ignorance. If life ends at death, and there is nothing there, then ""who cares if I kill or not, why should I be honest, honesty is for suckers etc..." > IMHO, true happiness can only come with knowing one's place in the universe. > When you die, you can't take anything with you, but what you know. > I do oppose all religions, but spirituality and religion are two different things. While spirituality enriches, religion enslaves. > Anna ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
