Please see what I wrote in 'Your Freedom & the Rights of Others' at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990
Love of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness inspires looking for ways to UNIVERSALIZE libertarianism Fear of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness generates endless excuses for authoritarian exceptions -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > then you are a slave any time government creates a law. you seem > somewhat confused between anarchy and the boundaries of liberty. > > Vic > > > David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Then they are slaves. > > > > David Macko > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Deus Ex Machina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:32 PM > > Subject: Re: self harm Re: [Libertarian] Can we talk? Sure. > > > > > > > mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Vic, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> What would you call "good"? Libertarians are very clearly against > > >> seat-belt and helmet laws - and drug laws, and prostitution laws, > > >> and pornography laws, and gambling laws. Responses to these > > >> issues (consensual crimes - only risking harm to self) constitute > > >> a very large part of Libertarian principles (and responses). > > > > > > seat belt and helmet laws are another reason why you loose public > > > support. no one thinks that seat belt laws are a violation of your > > > freedoms. it comes down to the simple question does the state have the > > > right to prevent you hurting yourself and people overwhelmingly say yes. > > > > > > the LP is out on a limb with this issue. > > > > > > Vic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X6CDDD/lzNLAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
