mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Vic, > > > > That's easy. "Harm" in the political sense usually denotes > non-consensual damage to an innocent other. Therefore, there is > no harm prevented by enforcing seatbelt laws - because NOT > wearing one doesn't "hurt" anyone.
only if you count yourself and passengers as nobodies. I just dont agree with your reasoning one bit. > Maybe you could respond to some of the examples of potential > future seat-belt-like laws I provided earlier. For your perusing > pleasure, here are some more: > > 1. Let's outlaw backyard football without the proper gear > (guards, helmets, etc). > 2. Let's make helmet laws for bicycles. we have helmet laws for bicycles. > 3. Let's outlaw all swimming in all bodies of water over 6 feet > deep without a hired lifeguard (professionally trained, insured, > bonded, licensed and certified only, of course). > > 4. Let's just outlaw all sports - just to be "safe". I know all > of them are not real risky (golf?), but heck most of them are. > > It is also conspicuous that you have failed to reply to my > challenge to you about anything you did today that did not > consist of your definition of contributory negligence, and my > question about whether you've ever been drinking with a buddy. because they are irrelavent. most of the example you site dont lead to wide spread death. not wearing seat belts is a major contributor to car injury statistics. its realy gains the LP no credibility being opposed to seat belt laws. its just sounds like anarchist rubish. which is basically what it is. until the LP can distance its self from this kind of irresponsible, couldnt give a shit about anyone else anarchist viewpoint it will never be anything more then a pimple on the political landscape. the overwhelming bulk of the population will give the gov the right to stop you damaging yourself. thats never going to change. Vic ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/g0CDCD/tzNLAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
