--- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Someone could open a restaurant that serves Blacks only and reap 
all 
> the business from Black people in the community. 

What if no restaurant did open to serve the Black community?  What 
about bi-racial and multi-racial people?  Do we need to have 
segregated places of business by race?  If the government gets 
involved as it has done with civil rights, then you have a more 
integrated society with less racism, like the way the country is 
going right now.  If there were no government intervention as 
Libertarianism proposes, then we might have segregation, a sort of 
self-imposed apartheid.  Is that what Libertarians want?

The opposite of the 
> senario you mention could happen as well. A business might loose 
non-
> Black customers by discriminating against Blacks in protest of 
such 
> a policy. I heard of a real life situation in which a gas station 
> owner in a small town in the south hired a Black man to pump gas 
for 
> customers( this was back when there was no such thing a self-
serve) 
> and many white customers told the owner that they would buy their 
> gas elsewhere if he did not fire the Black man. The owner lost 
> customer and was about to reluctantly fire the man when a White 
> woman asked him if he would continue to let the man work for him 
if 
> business picked up. She told him that she could get him some 
> customers. The owner agreed to hold off on firing the man. The 
woman 
> told her friends and people she knew who were not racist that they 
> should buy gas from the owner's station. She brought in enough 
> business to make up for the customers the station owner lost.
> 

As I mentioned in my post, however, what if the business is in a 
small town that is racist.  What if the business owner stood to make 
more profit from his regular customers by discriminating?



> Also, if a person has a strong objection to eating at a place that 
> serves Black people the law will not make a difference. They would 
> stop eating there if the place served Blacks regardless of whether 
> the law required that Blacks be served or not. I live in a state 
> that does not allow smoking in restaurants. Eventhough it is the 
law 
> many smokers stopped eating out because of the law. They don't 
> sympathize by continuing to eat out as much because they 
understand 
> that it is the law. That makes no difference to them.
> 

Yes it would make a difference and it has.  If a person does not 
want to eat a restaurant that serves black people, that person would 
need to stay home.  Because every restaurant is required to serve 
all races regardless of how they may feel or think.  There are no 
completely white restaurants anymore, thanks to civil rights and 
government intervention.

Anyone have any ideas or thoughts that can show me that 
Libertarianism does not lead to racist, segregated societies?  And 
don't say that the market can fix it without reading what I have 
written above and without some new points.

I am not bashing Libertarianism as I agree with most of the Party's 
points, but I can not become a member without resolving the civil 
rights issue.

Thanks.

David









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