Whether or not American Joe, and Cho Chinaman make a deal is no
business of mine.  Whether one of them brings those foreign goods into
America to sell them IS my business.

The American markets BELONG to the American people living within the
borders of the United States.  Each person is an equal stockholder in
the ability to sell goods within the borders of United States and has
legitimately granted power to the U.S. government to regulate
international commerce and to collect tariffs.  This allows us to have
a Constitutional government without stealing from our citizens or
imposing force on them.  Those who choose to bring goods here, are
willingly choosing to pay the tariff on the imports.  If they are
unwilling to pay the tariff, nobody is forcing them to bring their
goods here.  This means if you choose to sell goods within the borders
of the United States without paying the tariff, you are trespassing
against, and stealing from ALL American citizens.

I've already answered your questions.

1.  I own the markets, and the government has been granted the power
to ensure that those who wish to have the privilege of selling foreign
goods in my markets will pay for it.

2.  The transaction between the American buying goods from the Chinese
guy is of no concern to me.  Bringing those goods into America to sell
them is of concern to me.

3.  The federal government is protecting my property (the markets) by
exercising the legitimate and limited powers grnated to it in the
Constitution to charge tariffs to those who want access to the
American markets.  It doesn't matter what the nationality is of the
person who bought the goods or sold the goods happens to be.  It
doesn't matter whether someone owns goods or what they paid for them.
 All that matters is if they intend to sell foreign goods in the
American markets, they must pay for the privilege. 

Your claims that I, and the rest of the American public don't own the
markets is laughable and beyond ridiculous.  I suppose in your warped
and twisted little world I can just walk into any country I want and
start selling anything I want and the government or people of that
country have absolutely nothing to say about it.

Here in realm of reality, that's not the case.  In reality we have
governments and borders, and the laws in each nation differ, and the
governments in each nation decide on whether or not they will charge a
tariff for goods to be imported.  In democratic nations those
governments are chosen by the people who have granted governments this
power because the people of that country own the markets in that country.





--- In [email protected], "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Paul
>       The market in America is like a corporation and each American is a
>       stockholder.  You can't use the company resources without
permission
>       from the other stockholders.  We have a board of directors
>       (government) to keep track of the company resources and to charge
>       those who wish to allow products not manufactured by our company
>       to be sold in our stores.
> MJ
>      Apparently, in your world, the mob should rule.
>      AGAIN you continue to want to use government to enforce
>      your vision rather than allowing each individual to choose
>      for themselves (which is the case in the analogy you falsely
>      put forth).
> 
> Paul
>     No, I want to use government for its legitimate purpose of defending
>     me and my property against trespass and theft.
> 
> MJ
> This claim and what you are advocating are two separate ideals.
> 
> Joe American contracts with Cho Chinaman to provide X in exchange
> for Y.  Joe lives in the USofA and Cho in China.
> 
>   1. Please explain how YOUR 'resources' have been used without
>        permission.
> 
>   2. Please explain how THIS transaction is any concern of yours.
> 
>   3. Please explain how the Government would be protecting your
>        property against theft and/or trespass by intervening in the
>        transaction.
> 
> Your premise that the free market is somehow owned by you or others
> is flawed.  In fact, it is absurd.
> 
> Regard$,
> --MJ
> 
> "What we call the market is really a democratic process
> involving millions, and in some markets billions, of people
> making personal decisions that express their preferences.
> When you hear someone say that he doesn't trust the market,
> and wants to replace it with government edicts, he's really
> calling for a switch from a democratic process to a totalitarian
> one." -- Walter Williams
>








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