That's Democrat Party Propoganda. Yoh Paul, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens voted for the Democrats in your own state of California in 2000; by some estimates upwards of 300,000 in Loretta Sanchez's District alone!!!
Funny you're so quick to discount the illegal alien votes for Gore, and to buy into any sort of election stories coming out of the DNC. Not too mention that polls being opened in St. Louis, MO in heavily black precincts til 11:30 pm; a cold hard fact that even the Democrats don't dispute. AND CBS calling Florida for Gore on election night to supress the Republican vote in the Navy town of Pensacola and Ft. Walton, in Florida's Central Time Zone. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Al Gore had more than half a milliion votes more than Bush, and it's > no coincedence that the only state in which there was a dispute was > the only one in which his brother was the governor. Also, Gore won > the state of Florida too. That much is indisputable now. > > http://www.legitgov.org/index_hot_April5.html > > > Then came 2004 and Bush didn't need his brother's influence anymore. > He got his campaign contributers to build voting machines that can't > be traced and corrupt elections officials to use them to rig the > election like Katherine Harris did in Florida. > > I don't just believe it. It's a fact. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > So, can we count in you in the "Al Gore really won the Election of > > 2000 camp" Paul? > > > > Do you honestly believe that, or are you just blowing off hot air? > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > Here's another interesting fact. George W. Bush has never vetoed a > > > spending bill, or any other bill presented to him by the Republican > > > Congress. He's the only president in history to go 2 terms > > without a > > > veto and he's also the only president to serve 1 term without being > > > legitimately elected to office. He's the only president to ever be > > > appointed by the Supreme Court. He's has violated the Constitution > > > and attacked civil rights more than all previous presidents > > combined. > > > > > > He's even worse than our second worst President.... Ronald Reagan. > > > > > > He is the least fiscally responsible president of all time. I > > think > > > he's also the only president to admit to treason publically without > > > being impeached for it. He even had the stupidity to try to defend > > > his actions. Hell he should be executed for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > "Paul/Marrou didn't do much better than Badnarik..." > > > > > > > > Really Steven??? 435,000 to 393,000 is not hugely better, but > > > > certainly "significantly" better. > > > > > > > > You may wish to consider that 1984 was a banner dissaster year > > for > > > > the Libertarian Party. David Bergland the Party's nominee > > nearly > > > > destroyed the Party with his paltry 228,000 votes, so much so, > > that > > > > there was serious talk of closing down the LP altogether in > > early > > > > 1985. I know you know this, cause you're an oldtimer. > > > > > > > > Bringing the LP back from near-extinction from 1984 to 1988 was > > a > > > > near Herculean task for Ron Paul and his team. > > > > > > > > I dare say that if Browne had caved in 2000, to similar levels, > > say > > > > 230,000 votes, Badnarik would have had a similar Herculean task > > to > > > > undertake to bring the LP back to a decent position. > > > > > > > > As it was, Badnarik was coming off a 375,000 vote total for > > Browne, > > > > and could only pick up another 18,000 votes or so. Not nearly > > as > > > > impressive as going from 228,000 to 435,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > And spare us the "Bush is a deserter crap, please..." Bush > > served. > > > > As far as I know you did not. It's one thing for Honorably > > > > Discharged Vets like myself and Paul Ireland to denigrate Bush's > > > > service, (If Ireland does on this Forum he has every DAMNED > > Right > > > > to, cause he served 4 years in the Navy!), quite another for > > > > individuals like yourself who never served to bash Guardsman. > > Sure, > > > > the Guard is not quite like being on Active Duty, but it's > > entirely > > > > honorable service. > > > > > > > > Interesting factoid I heard the other day: Do you realize George > > W. > > > > Bush is the ONLY US President in our entire History to have > > piloted > > > > a Jet Fighter? Think about that for a second. Bush's Dad, No. > > > > Eisnehower, No. Nixon, No. Reagan, No. Certainly not > > Clinton. > > > > And Carter, who had a respectable service record as an Officer > > in > > > > the Navy served mostly on Subs. > > > > > > > > To call Bush a "Top Gun" is a stretch. But it is kind of cool, > > that > > > > we have a Commander in Chief who actually piloted Jet Fighters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "steven linnabary" > > > > <linnabary51@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Eric Dondero" <ericdondero@> > > > > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > > > > > ; remember that Kerry ran against libertarian William Weld > > for > > > > US Senate > > > > > and slammed Weld repeatedly for being a "libertarian," so he > > knows > > > > full well > > > > > who libertarians are.) > > > > > *** > > > > > Steve L.: Weld is a libertarian?? I suppose ANYONE can > > CLAIM to > > > > be > > > > > libertarian. Everyone WANTS to be libertarian. Even Bill > > Clinton > > > > at one > > > > > time claimed to be "libertarian". > > > > > > > > > > But simply calling oneself "libertarian" is kinda' like > > calling > > > > oneself > > > > > "Christian" or "ethical". An onlooker can quickly discover > > the > > > > truth of > > > > > ones convictions by watching their actions. >>> > > > > > *** > > > > > Now imagine that Bush was getting creamed by Badnarik on > > issue > > > > after > > > > > issue. > > > > > *** > > > > > Steve L.: I don't have to imagine it...Bush DID get creamed > > on > > > > issue after > > > > > issue by Badnarik. :-) >>> > > > > > *** > > > > > Don't you think that Bush would destroy Badnarik in one > > swoop > > > > with the > > > > > question, "Mr. Badnarik, though you seem to be a nice > > fellow... > > > > what > > > > > political office have you ever held? What qualifications do > > you > > > > have to be > > > > > Commander in Chief? I note you never even served in the > > > > Military. And how > > > > > can we take your views on domestic matters seriously when > > you've > > > > never had > > > > > to manage budget as I did for 6 years as Governor of the > > Nation's > > > > 2nd > > > > > largest State." > > > > > *** > > > > > Steve L.: Bush would have destroyed himself by bringing up > > his own > > > > > desertion during wartime. And Bush was at least politically > > savvy > > > > enough to > > > > > not bring up his own past. His record of destroying several > > > > businesses > > > > > prior to his election as governor was plenty embarassing. > > Gahd, > > > > he even > > > > > traded away Sammy Sosa when he owned the Astro's. >>> > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > The solution is simple; LIBERTARIAN PARTY NOMINATE SOMEONE > > WITH > > > > SOME > > > > > BACKGROUND IN 2008 - A JESSE VENTURA OR GARY JOHNSON, at the > > very > > > > least an > > > > > Ed Thompson or Don Gorman (!!!) not some Party Activist with > > > > little if any > > > > > political background. > > > > > *** > > > > > Steve L.: I am more than willing to LOOK at other candidates > > > > than tried > > > > > and true Libertarians. Ed and Don I know and trust. I don't > > know > > > > the other > > > > > two, except by how they treated the LP in their states. > > > > > > > > > > IMHO, a political resume is over rated. Art Olivier was > > former > > > > mayor of a > > > > > midsize city. It didn't help him. Ron Paul was a former > > > > congressman and > > > > > his running mate, Andre Marrou, was a state legislator. They > > > > didn't do much > > > > > better than Badnarik with his admittedly embarrassing running > > mate. > > > > > > > > > > The only resume I look for in a candidate is one that can talk > > the > > > > talk and > > > > > walk the walk. > > > > > > > > > > THAT is where Ventura, Weld, and the republican party in > > general > > > > comes up > > > > > woefully short. > > > > > > > > > > PEACE > > > > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > > > > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > > > > (614) 891-8841 > > > > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > > > > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make > > violent > > > > revolution > > > > > inevitable" John F. Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! 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