I'll try this again Paul. Do you wish to go on public record with stating categorically, that in your view Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols acted completely alone in blowing up the Oklahoma City Murrah Fed Bldg?
--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It wouldn't matter if Iraq murdered 100 million Kuwaitis, that would > not be justification for using the U.S. military to get involved. > Also, THERE WAS NO MUSLIM CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY > BOMBING....ESPECIALLY NO CONNECTION TO IRAQ!!! > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > Yes, you are correct in one sense. There were far worse human > > rights violations committed in other countries around the globe in > > the 1980s and 1990s than in Iraq. Sudan, Somalia and Ruwanda to be > > exact. But of the 3 only Ruwanda tops Hussein's murderous numbers. > > And this libertarian believes that it was an ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY OF > > MAGINICENT PROPORTIONS that Bill "Burn them Waco Whackos Alive" > > Clinton was spending so much time in 1994 and 1995 worrying about > > how to smash out David Koresh and cover up for the Muslim connection > > to the Oklahoma City bombing, that he totally and completed ignored > > the massive carnage in Ruwanda. > > > > Are you asking me if the US was more justified to go into Ruwanda > > than Iraq? Yes! > > > > But then again, consider that the Huutus never committed genocide > > outside of their borders. Hussein did, by brutally murdering > > upwards of 60,000 Kuwaitis. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > Far worse human rights issues persist in other countries that are > > > not assaulted by the US, many US allies even have serious humans > > > rights issues, the invasion did not stop human rights probelms in > > > Iraq and lastley the US has its own human rights issues that it > > > needs to adress. There is no sense in a justification that, since > > > your killing your population, we are going to kill them now > > isntead, > > > while killing our own in the process. > > > > > > I would gladley jump on the side of Liberation over Tyranny but I > > am > > > not so naive to think that the Republican wagon is Liberation. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > No, the US was justified in invading Iraq, for one, and one > > reason > > > > only; the massive human rights violations of Saddam, Uday, Qusay > > > and > > > > their henchmen. Just as bad as Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge. As the > > > > world's only remaining superpower it is OUR responsibility to > > stop > > > > human genocide on the planet. That is inherently a very > > > libertarian > > > > position, and it's amazing many libertarians have chosen to put > > > > themselves on the side of totalitarian dictators instead of on > > the > > > > side of liberation. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" > > > > <uncoolrabbit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nothing Paul said below contradicts that Iraqi's statement. > > > None > > > > of > > > > > sadams chemical weapons were found, that includes any that > > made > > > it > > > > > to Syria. It is no secret that Iraq had chemical and > > biological > > > > > weapons. The real crime of the administration is falsely > > leading > > > > the > > > > > people to believe IRaq was actively developing new wweapons, > > > > > including nuclear ambitions, which was not the case. > > > > > > > > > > So, what does the statement have to do with calling Paul a > > liar? > > > > The > > > > > Iraqi does not know where they went, only supporting Paul in > > his > > > > > claim that no WMDs were found in Iraq. It IS a fact. > > > > > > > > > > Aside from the specifics of Pauls statements validity, what > > else > > > > are > > > > > you trying to get at? That the administration is justified in > > > > > invading Iraq over a past and now dead chemical and biological > > > > > weapons program, and that traces off that prgram, including > > the > > > > > undestroyed products of that program, products the US has > > aswell > > > > and > > > > > has been slowly destroying for years, are all the > > justification > > > > > needed, while that same administration tolerated a real > > program > > > to > > > > > develop nuclear weapons in North Korea? This war had nothing > > to > > > do > > > > > with Iraq's arsenal, get over it. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And so Paul, you are claiming then that you know more about > > > what > > > > > > actually happened to the WMDs than the 2nd in Command of the > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > Air Force who a few weeks ago, in an interview, stated > > > > > categorically > > > > > > that "we shuffled them all off to Syria two months before > > the > > > > > > invasion..."? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you calling the guy a liar Paul? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't find anything ridiculous about the indisputable > > FACT > > > > that > > > > > > > there were no WMD's found. Not even non-WMDs like mustard > > > gas > > > > > were > > > > > > > found. Only the components that could be used to make > > > mustard > > > > > gas > > > > > > > were found. So once again, NO WMDs WERE FOUND. That's > > not > > > an > > > > > > attack > > > > > > > on the President. IT IS A FACT and those who claim > > > otherwise > > > > are > > > > > > > woefully misinformed or completely dishonest and most > > likely > > > > Bush > > > > > > > apologists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Geof Gibson" > > > > <geofgibson@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" > > > > > <txliberty@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geof, attack message, NOT messengers, in THIS forum! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > > > > > > > > Owner/moderator, > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry. I try my best to attack ridiculous arguments > > > > > without > > > > > > > > personal reference. > > > > > > > > I will re-double my efforts to remain impersonal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
