Thanks for the info. I assume you consider the LNC to be a government.
Is that assumtion correct? Do you consider the board of directors of a
corporation to be a government? I don't think the Redneck Yacht Club
is a government. http://www.redneckyachtclub.com

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--- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoth hrearden:
> 
> > > Not exactly. Anarchy (in the political sense, versus the "chaos,
rape
> > > and murder" hype) is the absence of _the state_, which is a very
> > > SPECIFIC form of "government."
> > 
> > 
> > How did you arive at that definition? Who defines the term that way
> > other than yourself?
> 
> I "arrived at that definition" by seeing it used elsewhere, thinking
> about it, comparing it with reality, and deciding it matched.
> 
> I wish I could lay claim to originating this fairly obvious concept, 
> but I can't. It's a fairly common thread. For more recent examples,
> see "Political Power Beyond the State: Problematics of Government," by
> Nikolas Rose and Peter Miller; or "On Governmentality" by Michel
> Foucault, both from the late 20th century.
> 
> The fact is that individuals, for various reasons, choose (or are
> forced by either circumstance or coercion) to affiliate with groups.
> 
> The fact is that those groups use various methods for developing rules
> and institutions to "govern" (the word "govern" is derived from the
> Latin "gubernare" and the Greek "kyberna," both of which mean "to
> steer") the doings of the group.
> 
> ALL human interaction at the group level implies "government" or
> governance," whether that interaction is temporary and voluntary (four
> people deciding what kind of pizza to order -- see L. Neil Smith's
> excellent essay on that subject), or allegedly permanent and overtly
> non-voluntary (200 million people deciding by a 51-49% vote to put
> people who smoke marijuana in cages). Even a trade between two
> individuals could not proceed in the absence of agreed-upon rules of
> contract (i.e. "governance") between the two parties.
> 
> Look into any variation of anarchist political theory, and you'll find
> elaborated systems of government, whether those systems consist of a
> network of agreements between private entities ("anarcho-capitalism")
> or full-assembly democracy by workers' collectives
> ("anarcho-syndicalism") or whatever.
> 
> Some anarchists eschew hierarchy; others eschew coercion; some eschew
> both. What they all have in common is that they reject the STATE -- a
> particularly evolved hierarchal/coercive monopoly asserted and
> enforced  within a specific geographical area.
> 
> Tom Knapp
>






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