Except that with NAP/ZAP/Libertarianism/Anarco-capitalism those that do harm 
are responsible to correct that harm or to make recompense.  Which is pretty 
much the opposite of what we have now with a constitutional government.

BWS

----- Original Message -----
From: uncoolrabbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:22 am
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Aggressors Promote UNLIMITED 'Libertarianism'

> I want to force others to not force things on others Terry. I have 
> the belief, perhaps deranged who knows, that we are not Angels, 
> and 
> I believe you know the Madison quote. 
> 
> I believe there is a role for limited goverment, and part of it 
> should be using the credible initiation of force to prevent the 
> initiation of force, as oxymoronic as that must sound. Further 
> more 
> I believe that there are many real issues, such as enviromental 
> protection vs anarcho-captilism that are a real conflicting issue 
> in 
> the NAP/ZAP world of theory as both sides can argue it is the 
> other 
> initiating force against them. These cases mean that, for a true 
> philosophical triumph the philosophy needs to be rethought.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Uncoolrabbit, hate's got nothing to do with it!  
> > 
> > You seem to be confusing the advocacy of ideals vs advocacy of 
> > various implementation approaches.  
> > 
> > But, I will ask you: what initiation, or credible threat of 
> > initiation, of physical force against an innocent person or 
> their 
> > justly held possession, do YOU want to advocate?  
> > 
> > 
> > -Terry Liberty Parker 
> > 'Real World' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous
> > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" 
> <uncoolrabbit@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 'Freedom' to violate you and yours
> > > is at the heart of UNLIMITED 'libertarianism'
> > > 
> > > In an apparent attempt to impose
> > > the continuing philosophic idealogy
> > > of extreem libertarianism, there is a push
> > > to demonize the pragmatists who seek real change. 
> > >  Now that the comfortable obscurity of Libertariansm
> > > has essentially fallen, the banner of 'liberty' becomes
> > > a hijacking target of the 'consistant libertarians.'  
> Aggressors  
> > who 
> > > eagerly want to maintain that only they know what truely 
> > is 'liberty'
> > > with no 'exceptions' to what they want to see construed as THE
> > > UNIVERSAL view of libertarianism.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don't hate me Terry :)
> > >
> >
> 
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