that I can't see beyond my own shit :)
(Google: Libervention) LiberVentionism is the notion that there is a
credible threat of initiatory (as opposed to defensive) physical
force upon innocent persons and their justly held possessions, from
abroad, which is so accute as to justify US govt intervention thru
taxpayer aid and/or military invasion/occupation. Its a flawed
employment of the libertarian physical aggression truce principle.
But, such advocacy is not OFF-topic as far as I'm concerned; 'bring
it on'
KOOP91.7fmNews.2005.06.30
Arianna Huffington leads intense 30 minutes with Angela K hosting
Scott Horton of http://www.weekendinterviewshow.com/
and Terry Liberty Parker attacking the LP's 'liberventionist'
Iraq 'exit plan' at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/38908
then S Miles Lewis delivers the 'Anomalies'
WindowsMedia dwonload/audio
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/KLN050630.wma
For decades, my advocacy can hardly be regarded as just aimed at self-
identified 'libertarians'
Here's a small sample some UnTowering:
'Real world' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569
Live&LetLive.1989.12.09
Downtown Austin Main Library is named for John Henry Faulk,
local nationally famous colorful 'Bill of Rights' advocate
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/library/lbfaulk.htm
His last interview before he died is here!
Host Greg Clark with Terry Liberty Parker
who also arranged this appearence
RealMedia Stream of TV show: 30 minutes duration
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/Inetpub/wwwroot/Webfiles/LLFaulk.wmv
Live&LetLive.1993.09.11
Live studio audience along with viewer call-in and multiple
interviews hosted by Terry Liberty Parker in this rapid fire 30
minute review of possible use of 'flame thrower tanks' by US govt at
Waco TX in assaulting Branch Davidians on April 19, 1993. Did you
know that TANKS repeatedly penetrated this wooden structure to
demolish an American residence while it was still occupied by men,
women and children? Indict the tank drivers!
AlsoGoogle: Waco April 19, 1993 Massacre
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL930911.wmv
Live&LetLive.1995.04.22
Adam Chacksfield & Terry Liberty Parker on the heels of the OK City
bombing, host Don Loucks of Texas Constitutional Militia who has also
become a Bastrop County Commissioner; he sells tanks too, btw.
Unscreened viewer calls-in & the CrankCallGirls! (30 minutes)
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL950422.rm
Live&LetLive.1998.05.02
Libertarian national Muslim figure, Dean Ahmad of
http://www.minaret.org publishes 'Islam and the Discovery of Freedom'
on the 50th anniversary of the creation of the modern state of
Israel; and takes live unscreened calls from viewers on this 1 hour
TV show.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL980502.rm
Live&LetLive.1998.08.01
'Real World' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous as a
practical demonstration of not only peace & possibility but FUN; as
social nudity option, among other things, arose out of the 'physical
aggression truce' premise.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569 The
community ended years ago but reunions happened. Article about one of
them is front and back page of Sunday Aug 02, 1998 Austin American-
Statesman Life&Arts section. Host Terry Liberty Parker and Guest Gene
Stevens of Liberty Action International
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL980801.rm
Live&LetLive.1999.06.05
Military intervention during US Prez Clinton's administration opposed
by libertarians at that time. Surprise guest, Royal Masset was, until
1999, Texas Republican Party Political Director for 15 years; tells
of working (sometimes behind the scenes) with libertarians during
those years to advance the cause of freedom
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL990605.rm
Live&LetLive.1999.06.19
Unlicensed (pirate?) low power community radio is promoted by
guest 'Reckless' of 'Free Radio Austin' as an alternative option
to 'establishment' co-opted media. Govt stopped them once but they
are going back 'on air' with a 'secret' transmitter Host Terry
Liberty Parker and unscreened calls from the viewing audience.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL990619.rm
Live&LetLive.1999.08.07
Jim Ellenger, among many other things, promoted and helped to found
KOOPfm91.7 and was later ousted by the 'PC Cadre' which has since
been replaced. Capitalism vs socialism in voluntary forms. Host Terry
Liberty Parker & unscreened viewer call-ins.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL990807.rm
Live&LetLive.1999.11.20
Marc Levin of the Austin Review http://www.AustinReview.com &
http://www.austinreview.homestead.com/strayhorn.html and UT chapter
of the Federalist Society http://www.fed-soc.org/ hosted by Terry
Liberty Parker with unscreened viewer calls. Conservative-
libertarians on drugs, public nudity & family values, school,
affirmative action, gambling, fetal personhood, public morality,
private morality, personal morality, property rights, big govt
Republicans vs small govt Republicans and more. Sound acceptable but
video required extensive 'repair' avg only 6fps
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL991120.wmv
Live&LetLive.1999.12.18
Before 'Patriot' Acts, there was Alex Jones! (www.InfoWars.com) In
Austin, Texas, you know him, you love him, you hate him. Intense anti-
police statism hosted by Terry Liberty Parker with unscreened viewer
call-ins. Rock Howard & LP news for first few minutes.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL991218.rm
Live&LetLive.2001.10.06
www.AustinAgainstWar.org with guests Pam Thompson and Stefan Wray.
Made soon after 911; includes ABC-TV Austin affiliate (KVUE) street
rally interview with Terry Liberty Parker in first few minutes in
which the LIBERTARIAN response to 911 is briefly described
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/austin/lll01100.rm
Live&LetLive.2001.10.27
Texans United Against War ( www.tuaw.org ) within weeks of 911 and
bombing of Afgahnistan. Host Terry Liberty Parker with Co-Host Angela
Keaton of www.LiberatedSpace.com and MANY anti-war guests from around
this state that was previously governed by now US Prez Bush.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL011027.rm
Live&LetLive.2002.05.04
Terry Liberty Parker 'attempts' to toke at pot rally in front of
Texas State Capital in this 'AntiWar Update' via live call-in TV show
with many clips from protest demonstrations provided by guests Pam
Thompson and Stefan Wray of www.IconMedia.org
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/austin/LL020504.rm
Live&LetLive.2002.08.03
AntiWar Candidates: Green Party Rahul Mahajan & Libertarian Party
Vince May
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/austin/ll020803.rm
Live&LetLive.2002.11.16
"Live and Let Live" is the world's longest continually telecasting
Libertarian TV series! (http://www.austinliberty.org/lptv.html)
Fifteen-Year Anniversary TeleCast with all 4 current hosts at once.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL15yr021116.rm
Live&LetLive.2003.02.01
On camera TV debut of 17 year old Journalism student Kristy Midkiff
co-hosting with 'old timer' Terry Liberty Parker on Space Shuttle
disaster & Iraq War; are joined by guest Debbie Russell on City of
Austin anti-war resolution
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/1059
which passed a few days later & one day AFTER Sctry of State Colin
Powell's UN 'proof'
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL030201.rm
Live&LetLive.2003.03.01
AntiWar.com TV Call-In show. Eric Garris of www.antiwar.com is remote
guest who appeals to conservatives as well as liberals; with host
Terry Liberty Parker, co-host Celeste Adams and unscreened calls from
the local Austin TV and internet audience. More about this one hour
show at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/1186
Tech problems at beginning but then is ok after first 7 minutes.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL030301.rm
Live&LetLive.2003.04.05
Anti 'Patriot' Acts TV with Austin Mayor ProTem Jackie Goodman &
unscreened audience call-ins hosted by Terry Liberty Parker
MoreInfoAt
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/1523
PlaybackAt
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL030405.rm
Live&LetLive.2003.07.05
Independence Weekend 'What is freedom good for' Host Terry Liberty
Parker, Libertarian organizer Nancy Neale, Iraq relief pilot Bill
Kelsey and unscreened calls from the TeleWebCast audience.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL030705.wmv
Live&LetLive.2003.11.01
Texas ACLU Crininal Justice Liaison Ann del Llano is guest of Terry
Liberty Parker in this Anti-Police state TeleWebCast with unscreened
audience call-in InfoAt
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/3093
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL031101.wmv
Live&LetLive.2003.12.06
PolitSpirit fusion with Julie Rumble and Wendy Land of
www.DualityPlanet.com hosted by Terry Liberty Parker with unscreened
viewer call-in
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL031206.wmv
Live&LetLive.2004.01.03.A.aux audio
Interviews by 'roving reporter' Terry Liberty Parker at antiwar rally
in front of the Texas State Capitol Jan 3, 2004. Helga's dream, rally
organizer Doug Foxvog of www.AustinAgainstWar.org which sponcored the
rally, former Austin City Councilmember George Humphry, a promoter of
love & conscience, a Gulf War I 'protest flag waver' from 13 years
ago, Stephan Wray of www.IconMedia.org, Juanita with 'pot' clipboard
(www.mpp.org), Dick Underhill of Veterans for Peace
(www.vfpaustin.org), Bill Kelsey and his daughter Danielle, free
doughnuts & day's description. Aprx 25 minutes
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL040103a.wma
Live&LetLive.2004.12.04
Terry Liberty Parker steps down after over 10 years as a regular host
of series. Mayor Pro Tem & long time Austin activist, Jackie Goodman
(who is also stepping down from office) is his most preferred guest
for this 'capstone' show about Austin's old paradigms morphing to new
paradigms plus current issues like proposed City Council resolution
to promote electronic vote integrity and more.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/LL041204.wmv
theJeffDavisShow.2005.08.21
Folk legend Joan Baez interview at Crawford Texas Western Whitehouse
ant-war vigil moments before she performs for the hundreds of rallied
protesters, by Nick Papatonis, also Cindy Sheehan on tape and her
attorney, Jim Harrington of Texas Civil Rights Project in studio with
Johnny Bartee and Terry Liberty Parker hosting unscreened audience
calls in to the show.
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/JD050821.wmv
theJeffDavisShow.2005.11.06
Health Freedom Act, Drug Prohibition Repeal, Police, KKK rally,
immigration and unscreened callers with Terry Liberty Parker
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/JD051106.wmv
theJeffDavisShow.2006.04.16
WACO Anniversary & Protesting R US MoreInfo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty/message/260
http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub/wwwroot/webfiles/JD060416.wmv
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--- In [email protected], Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Terry, will you tell me that you believe that
the "LiberVentionists" as you call them sincerely want the United
States to live under a dictatorship or oligarchy? I would be very
careful and be very confident of my evidence before I would accuse
anyone who says they are a libertarian of not being what they say.
Now, they may be misguided, their ideas may require more thought, but
they have a right to bring their ideas to the table and put the light
on them. As I said in the last post, if we sit in an ivory tower and
disdain those who aren't minarchists and anarchists, we will wonder
why all those others get to play and we don't.
>
>
>
> Terry L Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cory, news flash:
>
> 'LiberVentionists' ARE in the LP and want to recruit even MORE
> supporters of Bush/Cheney style dictatorship & oligarchy :(
>
> -Terry Liberty Parker
> Please see what I wrote in
> LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47412
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Cory Nott" <corynott@> wrote:
> >
> > I find it highly doubtful that anyone would join the LP or claim
to
> be a
> > libertarian if they believed that dictator, oligarchy or other
form
> of
> > authoritarian government were the best way to achieve anything
> close to what
> > we describe as our platform.
> >
> > I say Paul's analogy is flawed because "belief in Jesus of
> Nazareth" isn't
> > necessarily a requirement to be a Christian. One could be born
into
> the
> > Catholic church and baptized. Unitarians accept non-believers .
An
> atheist
> > showed up at almost any Christian church and said that he wants
to
> believe
> > but is having trouble, they would probably welcome him with open
> arms. For
> > years he may struggle with doubts but still could call himself
> Christian. A
> > strong believer in Jesus may explore other religions. Everyone
> approaches a
> > belief or a desire to be like Christ differently and it can be a
> very
> > personal thing. If Paul wants to keep his analogy then he will
have
> to agree
> > that belief in the NAP is also a highly personal thing and one's
> commitment
> > cannot be easily questioned by mere mortals unless there is some
> sort of
> > egregious violation.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Terry L Parker
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:49 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
> >
> >
> > Cory, sans universal physical aggression truce, libertarianism
can
> > describe a dictator, an oligarchy and so on, since the rulers
> > certainly have 'liberty'
> >
> > Please see what I wrote in
> > LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
> > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47412
> >
> >
> > -TLP
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Cory Nott" <corynott@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > If you had read what I wrote correctly, you would have seen
> that I
> > said "all
> > > ideas on liberty lead toward the basic philosophy of non-
> > aggression."
> > >
> > > I am not wrong. Your analogy, like the one about American
being
> > some sort of
> > > corporate mall, is flawed. Libertarianism isn't a religion
where
> > everyone
> > > must have one core belief or be left out in the cold. Liberty
is
> > objective,
> > > but there may be different ideas on how to get there and just
> what
> > liberty
> > > fully is. I have a moral commitment to the premise of the NAP
> but I
> > would
> > > not require other libertarians to have that same moral value.
> I'm
> > happy if
> > > they accept that is the best principle, or think it's
> generally a
> > good idea
> > > to an extent greater than what we have in government today.
> > >
> > > I'm also wondering why Satan worshippers aren't Christians
> > according to your
> > > definition. Most Satan worshippers believe in Jesus of
> Nazareth -
> > they just
> > > don't worship Him. Also, what about those people who believe
> Jesus
> > existed
> > > but don't believe he was God and don't call themselves
> Christian?
> > Maybe you
> > > need to define the core belief of Christianity further, but I
> still
> > don't
> > > think it'll make for a good analogy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Behalf Of Paul
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:31 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Purity
> > >
> > >
> > > Wrong. Comparing Christianity to Libertarianism is an
> absolutely
> > > perfect analogy. Christianity has a set belief system and
so
> does
> > > libertarianism. Christianity has a core belief that
> separates its
> > > belief system from others. In this case the belief in
Jesus
> of
> > > Nazareth. In the case of Libertarianism it's the believe
in
> and
> > > support of the non-aggression principle. If someone does
not
> > believe
> > > in the nap, the term "libertarianism" is as inappropriate
for
> > them as
> > > is "Christianity" for a Satan worshiping.
> > >
> > > All paths do not lead to liberty. Some lead to aggression,
> and
> > those
> > > that lead to aggression always lead away from liberty.
> > Aggression in
> > > the name of liberty is like rape in the name of virginity.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian
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