Tom, wouldn't it be fraudulent to recruit LP members via false hopes
of electorial victory in what is, as recognized by you, a broken or
rigged system? 

I see no fraud in party recruitment that makes plain the nature of
the game as it is now and has been for all LP history.  I see
the 'power' of the LP in its CONSISTENCY to brave advocacy that
actually inspires people in and out of the party.  I see cruel
delusion in promoting (for most LP races) what seems a wild eyed
feeling of 'maybe we can WIN' (that election)  I see as stunning
achievment Libertarians in HUNDREDS of public offices; especially
since it was done in the context of an establishment rigged game. 

So, I'm certainly NOT saying don't run electorial campaigns; just run
them honestly as what they can be in CURRENT circumstances.  Iow, I
advocate understanding the nature of the game AND appreciation for
the power of politics that maintain and advance consistency to the
principle of universal libertarianism; aka, liberty & justice for ALL

Is there REALLY much difference between the 'preaching' in an
effective political speech and/or an inspirational sermon   :) 


-Terry Liberty Parker
Please see what I wrote in
LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47412




--- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Terry,
>
> > Tom, I would urge inclusion of the observation that the USA
public
> > office electorial context is, as you've pointed out, 'winner take
> > all' rather than proportional and, as I'll remind, vote counting
is
> > broken (dishonest even before electronics) 
> >
> > Sans established party (Demo/Repub) 'machinery' (used to be
things
> > like poll watchers before e-voting) to off-set vote tally fraud,
> > statagies that compromise principled advocacy (evangilising?) for
the
> > sake of ballot 'sucsess' are delusional, imo. 
> >
> > CONSISTENCY to a universal libertarianism (aka: liberty & justice
for
> > ALL) builds upon what gives people hope.  It expands the universe
of
> > political discourse.  That makes it possible for conventional
> > politics to 'colonize' positions once considered too 'radical'
And
> > that helps libertarianism to become 'public policy' 
>
> That's a very good argument for changing the Libertarian Party into
> the Libertarian Society or the Libertarian Institute. I have no
> problem with those who conclude that electoral politics is
irrelevant,
> or that the system is broken or rigged beyond utility, etc.
>
> That doesn't change the fact that the Libertarian Party claims to
be,
> and postures as, a political party. It should either function as a
> political party, or stop pretending to be one. There's a name for
> putting water in bottles and labeling it "wine." That name is "false
> advertising."
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>






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