Tom,

I stand corrected. I guess I should have qualified the statement
with "In TODAY'S religious context, "believing in Christ" USUALLY
includes ...".

Earlier you called the Christian analogy a false one. Do you have
a "true" one for us; one that would be more analogous? Maybe you
are holding out on submitting a perfect analogy, where even the
details (including all the histories) of both comparatives are
analogous.

-Mark



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Quoth Mark:

> In the religious context, "believing in Christ" includes the
> belief that he is the one true God and Savior (died on the
cross,
> bla bla bla).

Unless, of course, you were one of the original Christians, led
by
Jesus' brother James, who just believed that he was the Messiah
(an
anointed priest-king of the Davidic and Aaronic lines), rather
than a
God himself (a belief which was considered blasphemous under the
religion taught by Jesus, called "Judaism").

Or a Nestorian, probably the most "pure" of the succeeding
Christian
churches (they preserved themselves from "the Pauline heresy"in
what
is now Iraq until the early 20th century, when most of their
clergy
moved to a monastery in the US), who did not ascribe to the
alleged
divinity of Jesus.

Or an Arian, a sect which did not believe in the divinity of
Christ,
which was partially suppressed in the 4th century, but which
controlled a significant number of European bishoprics well into
the
middle ages.

Or a Unitarian, a sect which does not believe in the divinity of
Christ, and which still exists today (usually in merger with the
Universalists).

Tom Knapp







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