to be shown to the jury why the supllier owes the debt and that the
debt is the amount the supllied. One could argue that a refinery is a
corporation which is a service provided by a state government that is
voluntery, in that case it is strictly a user fee. Corporate revenue
in the US is around 17 trillion to 19 trillion a year so a tax on
corporate gross revenue of less than 1.5% would bring in about what
the federal corporate income tax brings in now around 230 billion
dollars but some pay nothing except a high compliance and record
costs and most C corporations probally pay more maybe much more than
1.5% in gross revenue especially counting compliance
costs.
It would be easier to prove that a corporation must pay the fee
than to prove a small fuel suppler and retailer must charge a fuel
tax. First if it is a common road everyone has a right to use it to
get back and forth to his property, if restrictions or charges are
applied then ownership of the road must be clear. The pavement on the
road may in some cases be enough for ownership and to charge
transport that will wear the pavement but that can not be just
assumed.--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> All taxes are not force. For instance a gas tax. One could choose
> not to use gas. One could use an entirely electric car and avoid
the
> tax all together. Therefore it's not force because someone has
made a
> CHOICE to use gas, and therefore agrees to pay the fee (aka tax)
> associated with it. If they choose not to pay it, they can CHOOSE
to
> use an electric car or another conveyance.
>
> A right can not be taxed, but a privilege can be. For instance the
> PRIVILEGE of bringing goods across national borders. This is not a
> right and has nothing to do with the right of property ownership.
It
> is a PRIVILEGE offered by governments for a fee.
>
> If you make a choice to bring those goods across national borders,
> you're CHOOSING to pay the fee associated with them. If you try to
> bring your goods across without paying, you're committing an act of
> aggression in the form of trespass and theft.
>
> Illigitimate taxes would include a breathing tax, an eating tax, an
> income tax, or a sleeping tax.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <cottondrop@>
> wrote:
> >
> > All taxes are intation of force, otherwise the fees are not
taxes.---
> > In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You mean like accurately describing a tariff as not using the
> > > initiation of force? And for those who smuggle goods across
> > national
> > > borders of initiating force? And thoroughy proving logically,
> > > reasonably, intelligently, and from a libertarian perspective
that
> > not
> > > all taxes are theft, and not all taxes amount to the initiation
of
> > > force while disproving every inaccurate, false, and misleading
> > > statement you tried to make to the contrary?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Paul <ptireland@>
> > > > > Wrong. Comparing Christianity to Libertarianism is an
> > absolutely
> > > > > perfect analogy. Christianity has a set belief system and
so
> > does
> > > > > libertarianism. Christianity has a core belief that
separates
> > its
> > > > > belief system from others. In this case the belief in
Jesus of
> > > > > Nazareth. In the case of Libertarianism it's the believe
in
> > and
> > > > > support of the non-aggression principle. If someone does
not
> > > > > believe
> > > > > in the nap, the term "libertarianism" is as inappropriate
for
> > them
> > > > > as
> > > > > is "Christianity" for a Satan worshiping.
> > > > >
> > > > > All paths do not lead to liberty. Some lead to aggression,
and
> > those
> > > > > that lead to aggression always lead away from liberty.
> > Aggression in
> > > > > the name of liberty is like rape in the name of virginity.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly like supporting tariffs and saying it isn't a tax
when it
> > > really is. And then denying that fact that all taxes are
initiated
> > > aggression.
> > > >
> > > > BWS
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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