Thank you for your post.
> 1. Iraq will descend into civil war.
> (answer) So what? It is already pretty much in a civil war. It
might
> become an even more violent civil war whether the US stays or
leaves.
> It was also pretty much an inevitabilty that that would happen even
> before 2003. BTW, there was no civil war in Iraq before the US
rolled
> into Baghdad and set up the CPA.
> 2. Iraq may split up.
> (answer) So what? Iraq is an artificial entity cobbled together by
an
> imperial adventure following the defeat of the Ottoman empire at
the
> end of World War I. Why should another imperial adventure be
embarked
> upon (or continued upon) in order to keep together what never
should
> have been brought together in the first place.
> 3. Iraq will become a training ground for al-Queida.
> (answer) Not only is Iraq now a training ground for al-Queida (as
> well as other "terrorist" groups, it is also a major recruiting
> slogan for those groups. And of course, Iraq was not a training
> ground until after the US occupied it.
> 4. US soldiers will have died in vain.
> (answer) You would be right in arguing this, but, hey, it happens
all
> the time. Whether the US stays in or leaves Iraq, US soldiers will
> have died in vain. For that matter, even if the US stays
> and "completes its mission" (whatever that happens to be at the
> moment) US soldiers will have died in vain.
> 5. The US will lose stature in the world if it abandons its mission
> in Iraq.
> (answer) DUH!!
This is all I was asking for. I do not hold a static opinion on any
subject and therefore fell compelled to lend an ear to the voices of
opposition. I was not trying to start an argument here, I simply
feel it is my responsibility to at least hear counter-arguments, at
least those that have been thought out in full.
Let me ponder what you have said and thanks for your answer.
WG
--- In [email protected], "kiddleddee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "wgilbert02" <buckygilbert@>
> wrote:
> >
> > So what is your solution. I'm not trying to start an argument
> > here. I just want to hear your solution and others.
>
______________________________________________________________________
>
> Here is the solution, step by step:
>
> 1. Stop committing the crime.
>
> 2. Actually, there is no #2; #1 pretty much covers it.
> __________________________________
>
> I am not
> > closed minded on this subject, but currently am of the belief
that
> > withdrawing will be more disastrous for the US and Iraq than
> > continuing to try and create a democracy.
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> OK, let's try to do this way. If the US and its coalition partners
> withdraw (pick one - or several):
>
> 1. Iraq will descend into civil war.
> (answer) So what? It is already pretty much in a civil war. It
might
> become an even more violent civil war whether the US stays or
leaves.
> It was also pretty much an inevitabilty that that would happen even
> before 2003. BTW, there was no civil war in Iraq before the US
rolled
> into Baghdad and set up the CPA.
> 2. Iraq may split up.
> (answer) So what? Iraq is an artificial entity cobbled together by
an
> imperial adventure following the defeat of the Ottoman empire at
the
> end of World War I. Why should another imperial adventure be
embarked
> upon (or continued upon) in order to keep together what never
should
> have been brought together in the first place.
> 3. Iraq will become a training ground for al-Queida.
> (answer) Not only is Iraq now a training ground for al-Queida (as
> well as other "terrorist" groups, it is also a major recruiting
> slogan for those groups. And of course, Iraq was not a training
> ground until after the US occupied it.
> 4. US soldiers will have died in vain.
> (answer) You would be right in arguing this, but, hey, it happens
all
> the time. Whether the US stays in or leaves Iraq, US soldiers will
> have died in vain. For that matter, even if the US stays
> and "completes its mission" (whatever that happens to be at the
> moment) US soldiers will have died in vain.
> 5. The US will lose stature in the world if it abandons its mission
> in Iraq.
> (answer) DUH!!
> ______________________________________
>
> I do see some signs that some
> > Iraqi's are trying to establish a sound democracy in the Middle
> East.
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> Once again, so what? And just for stuff and grins, what "signs that
> some Iraqi's are trying to establish a sound democracy in the
Middle
> East" do you see?
>
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