--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is where your logic fails. 
>
> On an island without a government, people can legitimately band
> together to defend rights, but not to violate them. People do have
> the right to determine whether or not someone else will be allowed to
> sell goods within their combined and/or collective property.
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How is it that "people" "determining" whether someone will be allowed
to sell goods is not a violation of their right to property? And why
do "people" have such a right?
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This
> means they can grant this power to government.  Nobody on an island
> has the right to tell another person what medicines they will or won't
> take, what weapons they will or won't own, or what religion they will
> follow.  This means they can't grant this power to government.
>
> Tariffs are legitimate.  Drug laws, gun laws, abortion laws, and and
> religious laws are not.
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Let me see if I understand what you are saying: taking drugs, owning
guns, having an abortion, and practicing a religion are "rights" - not
privileges which exist at the whim of the "people" - of an individual
which the "government" cannot encumber. On the other hand, owning and
disposing of property are not "rights"  - but rather privileges which
exist at the whim of the "people" - of an individual and therefore are
subject to being encumbered by "government".






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